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re: Lane Kiffin will no longer vote in Coaches Poll
Posted on 8/14/12 at 10:29 pm to Rocket
Posted on 8/14/12 at 10:29 pm to Rocket
Kiffin is an amazing recruiter - up there with the best in the game.
He has shown to be a pretty great administrative guy to in planning USC's rise out of the ashes and dealing with sanctions. He created a plan and his plan is better than anything USC fans could have hoped for.
He is a good gameday coach and makes good adjustments and has his team ready to play. Pete would often have his teams sleepwalk through the 1st quarter if it wasn't a big game and stuck with something on offense even if it wasn't working...to be fair, he was mostly concerned with calling the D during the game...of which he made great adjustments at halftime - usually shutting down what the other team was doing the 2nd half as USC would roll to victory.
As a public face of a program...yes, Kiffin has problems and he doesn't have good public skills. But privately, kids seem to love playing for him. That's really all I care about because that equals results.
All that said, his first real test comes this year...now that something is actually on the line. It's too early to tell if he can actually lead a team to glory. We don't know.
Time will tell.
He has shown to be a pretty great administrative guy to in planning USC's rise out of the ashes and dealing with sanctions. He created a plan and his plan is better than anything USC fans could have hoped for.
He is a good gameday coach and makes good adjustments and has his team ready to play. Pete would often have his teams sleepwalk through the 1st quarter if it wasn't a big game and stuck with something on offense even if it wasn't working...to be fair, he was mostly concerned with calling the D during the game...of which he made great adjustments at halftime - usually shutting down what the other team was doing the 2nd half as USC would roll to victory.
As a public face of a program...yes, Kiffin has problems and he doesn't have good public skills. But privately, kids seem to love playing for him. That's really all I care about because that equals results.
All that said, his first real test comes this year...now that something is actually on the line. It's too early to tell if he can actually lead a team to glory. We don't know.
Time will tell.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 10:33 pm to Zamoro10
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He has shown to be a pretty great administrative guy to in planning USC's rise out of the ashes and dealing with sanctions. He created a plan and his plan is better than anything USC fans could have hoped for.
He is a good gameday coach and makes good adjustments and has his team ready to play. Pete would often have his teams sleepwalk through the 1st quarter if it wasn't a big game and stuck with something on offense even if it wasn't working...to be fair, he was mostly concerned with calling the D during the game...of which he made great adjustments at halftime - usually shutting down what the other team was doing the 2nd half as USC would roll to victory
But y'all act like he's got some special, unique skills. There are coaches out there doing a whole lot with a lot less.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 10:40 pm to Rocket
Kiffin feels more like a regular coach who is a great recruiter...a grinder who can recruit great athletes...and calls a pretty good game but he's not uber-special.
He doesn't have the special "whatever you want to call it" that Pete brought...this air about the team of invincibility and optimism and excitement.
No USC fan was terribly excited about getting Kiffin after having PC...and you know...going into any game...hey, we could lose...but so far, he's exceeded expectations.
But for most USC fans:
"In Lane we trust?" Not yet. The jury is still out and has a long deliberation. He could prove the doubters wrong...who knows? But I like what he's done so far.
He doesn't have the special "whatever you want to call it" that Pete brought...this air about the team of invincibility and optimism and excitement.
No USC fan was terribly excited about getting Kiffin after having PC...and you know...going into any game...hey, we could lose...but so far, he's exceeded expectations.
But for most USC fans:
"In Lane we trust?" Not yet. The jury is still out and has a long deliberation. He could prove the doubters wrong...who knows? But I like what he's done so far.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:58 am to Zamoro10
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No USC fan was terribly excited about getting Kiffin after having PC...and you know...going into any game...hey, we could lose...but so far, he's exceeded expectations. But for most USC fans: "In Lane we trust?" Not yet. The jury is still out and has a long deliberation. He could prove the doubters wrong...who knows? But I like what he's done so far.
That about sums it up.
I was pretty impressed that with the youth of last year's team, he was able to get them to improve. Hell, it might have been mostly Monty, because the defense improved a hell of a lot towards the end of the season. Kiffins gonna Kiffin.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 5:48 am to Rocket
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But y'all act like he's got some special, unique skills. There are coaches out there doing a whole lot with a lot less.
Which USC fan here has implied that? Thats your hatred of all LFK tainting your perception. You have stated on a number of occasions that your "job" is to "bash" anyone and "put [them] in their place" when someone supports or posts anything remotely positive about LFK. You have stated you "will turn any thread into a LFK bashing thread that [you] want".
I will say for the record though that he and his staff are arguably the tops or top two in recruiting prowess.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 6:22 am
Posted on 8/15/12 at 10:53 am to FightOn4ever
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Rocket, even though we've been over this before, I'm gonna accuse you of of hating Baby Kiffin, eventhough it's not true. You just don't respect inexperieced and unprofessional football coaches. I'm going to accuse you of saying it's your job to bash anyone, although you do have an unwritten obligation because people like me have been flaming and trolling for so long and just have been overall douchebags for the most part and deserve any shite we get but it's certainly not your job. You have a long history of posting babe threads and discussing country music and college football that is to be admired. Rocket, I'm about to cry. You are just so mean. I can't take it that you don't have favorable opinions of Kiffin, Inc and you won't let me and my fellow USC fans flame and troll and carry on with a big USC circle jerk without giving us a hard time and making us look like the huge douchebags we are. Please forgive me. It's been about a decade since I've gotten any pussy so I just go crazy sometimes. Sincerely, Flamon/Tangy
FIFY
Posted on 8/15/12 at 11:49 am to Rocket
I did not think you'd be able to back up your latest lame claim.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:27 pm to FightOn4ever
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Rocket, you're right, we USC fans have definitely glowed about the job Lane Kiffin has done at USC to the point that we make it look like Kiffin has some special qualities.I would love to say that we're aware of other coaching talent in the country who are doing a lot with not near the athletes that Kiffin is but that's just not true. I'm kind of a dumbass. I have a huge vagina. The truth is Lane Kiffin will always be able to get great athletes because of USC's long tradition. If he was still at UT, he'd be on the hot seat. Lane Kiffin thinks he hit a triple when he was actually born on 3rd base. If you weren't around, I'd be an even bigger douchebag than I am but you are here to talk LSU football, country music and post babe threads. And you seem to have no problem in combatting my douchebagness when it flares up. I've been pretty outraged that you don't have a favorable opinion of Kiffin, Inc. eventhough it's not how things should be you have no obligation to and I guess I'll have to just get over it. Now excuse me while I go clean my vagina. Sincerely FlameOn/Tangy
FIFY
Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:29 pm to Rocket
Rocket, just another day of owning Fighton4ever
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:37 pm to TigerBait2008
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Rocket, just another day of owning Fighton4ever
So true. I'm in strong agreement.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 1:50 pm to TigerBait2008
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TigerBait2008 Lane Kiffin will no longer vote in Coaches Poll Rocket, just another day of owning Fighton4ever
If by that you mean questioning the sexuality and avoiding questions, indeed he has. Like an insecure fourth grader at recess.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 2:04 pm to FightOn4ever
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Tigerbait2008, I agree with you unfortunately but I can't say anything. Because of my history of flaming and trolling this site and being a huge douchebag, Rocket has no obligation to answer any questions. He has no obligation to be fair to me. He's gottent the best of me but I'm trying to avoid letting people know that but little do I know, I lost this pissing contest a long time ago. I just can't win. I never do. I should have learned a long time ago to stay clear of Rocket. He's always going to play me like a yo-yo. Sincerely, FlameOn/Tangy
FIFY
Posted on 8/15/12 at 3:27 pm to TigerBait2008
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Rocket, just another day of owning Fighton4ever
This.
The "fixes" are especially amusing. The sexual tangents are a tad gratuitous, but the rest is spot on. Trojans repeat lies interminably because the technique has a proven record of persuading the weak minded. It drives them crazy when someone calls them out on their lies because in large part they are lying to themselves and cannot accept that they are terminally locked in denial. And then they accuse others of projecting. The irony is breathtaking.
While Rocket does not deign to answer questions from the lowest of humans, this clown is not above that. So it suits me to respond to Tangy's questions:
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to each his own.
Let me ask some questions.
1. why do you feel the need to show up in every USC thread like a moth to a flame?
2. WHy is it you refuse to talk sports in such threads ad resort to attempted insults at anyone who posts positively about USC and Lane Kiffn that include homophobic rants?
3. why did you state that you were pissed off at the media and sports world that USC garnered the more attention in 2003 and for the following 5 years despite LSU winning two BCS NC's during that span?
4. Why did you wish bad doings on Joe McKnight after he committed to USC.
My point is you are obsessed with USC and it shows. YOur head is not clear, although it never was.
I will await your responses.
Enjoy.
1. The question is actually why do Trojans feel the need to come on an LSU site to start threads about the University of Serial Cheaters? That you receive negative reactions should come as no surprise to you; every fan base in America dislikes Trojans. A more unlikeable fan base does not exist. Also, it is well known that challenging Trojan lies annoys them to no end. They need others to believe their lies so they can be assured that they are not locked in denial, which of course, they are. Responding to Trojans is a duty of setting the record straight. It says you can lie to yourself, but it does not work here; go lie somewhere else. You know, like on a Trojan board where lies fly unchallenged.
2. It was a Trojan who brought up homophobia in this thread. Trojans do not come here to talk sports; they come here to assuage their feelings of inferiority. They always fail to receive that because no matter what Trojans say, they will never change the fact that they were not co-champions with LSU in 2003. Never. The BCS Championship will never be divisible and that is the only championship recognized by BCS schools -- including USC. Period. Trojans come to an LSU board because Tiger acquiescence to Trojan lies is the most important to them. The most assuaging.
3. The media darling has always been USC and always will be. You are surprised that more deserving teams who do not play 11 cream puffs every year are annoyed by this bias? As long as Trojans continue to falsely claim co-championship status with LSU for 2003, there will be no change in LSU's attitude toward that undeserved and untruthful brag. The creation of the BCS officially ended split championships. Get over it.
4. Perhaps Rocket's motives about Joe McKnight conflate his justified feelings about USC (shared almost universally) and his reaction to a Louisiana kid giving LSU the finger and his attitude toward LSU shared by his high school coach, JT Curtis. Maybe it relates to his questionable recruitment and subsequent SUV revelations that drove him prematurely to the pros. Just a guess.
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My point is you are obsessed with USC and it shows. YOur head is not clear, although it never was.
Breathtaking. You come to an LSU board for the 5 thousandth time, receive the same response you always do, and accuse us of being obsessed. Try to achieve clarity in your head: "positive" news about USC is not positive to anyone but Trojans. If you spared us your news, we would never miss it, or you.
Of course, none of the above will penetrate your abject denial, or lessen your desperate need for Tiger affirmation. So, like all of your pointless spats here, there will be no change in anyone. Being a self-admitted clown, this frivolous exercise in futility is not above me. Whereas you are in complete denial.
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I will await your responses.
Enjoy
Well you have mine, at least. Did you enjoy the truth?
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:07 pm to BozoBus
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2 It was They always fail to receive that because no matter what Trojans say, they will never change the fact that they were not co-champions with LSU in 2003. Never. The BCS Championship will never be divisible and that is the only championship recognized by BCS schools -- including USC. Period. Trojans come to an LSU board because Tiger acquiescence to Trojan lies is the most important to them. The most assuaging. .
3. The media darling has always been USC and always will be. You are surprised that more deserving teams who do not play 11 cream puffs every year are annoyed by this bias? As long as Trojans continue to falsely claim co-championship status with LSU for 2003, there will be no change in LSU's attitude toward that undeserved and untruthful brag. The creation of the BCS officially ended split championships. Get over it.
Boom. And there ya have it folks. Translation - butthurt still from 2003. On second glance no tranlation is needed; the butthurt is clearly spelled out. Thanks for answering for rocket and some of the other tiger faithful. Most have moved on, but many are still smarting.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:26 pm to FightOn4ever
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Bozo, you just took me to school, although I misled you on some points with those questions. But I'm going to come on here and pretend that you're butthurt from 2003, knowing it's not true because I'm trying to save face AGAIN. It's not working. I'm not fooling anyone. I come up lame time after time. It never fails. We both know there's no way you could be buthurt. LSU and the SEC have been dominating college football as of late. USC hasn't gotten in a national title game since January 2006 and Vince Young roamed wild on the Boys of Troy. We've only won 1 BCS national title game in the BCS era. We could have made it a few other times but when you are in the Pac 10, you can't up lame against Oregon State and Stanford and deserve a shot at the national title game. But hey, it's not our fault nobody has any respect for our conference schedule. I came on here with some anger yelling "Boom" because winning pissing contests is very important to me. But it's been a while since I've won one of those. But I'm not fooling anyone. If I wasn't such a huge douchebag, people wouldn't enjoy taking owner ship of me. I'm heading to WeareSC.com. Maybe they'll accept my bullshite but it's going to but tough knowing I can't punk you the way I want. I'll probably be back because I'm a glutton for punishment. Rocket is one of the most fair and level-headed posters on this site but when you come on here to flame and troll and act like a huge douchebag like I do, he can give you a hard time. It's pretty embarassing for me when I come on here and folks like Volmanac and wolfpack pretend to join my side(I get real excited) only to find out they are trolling. The joke's on me. I've been had. But then again, what's new? Sincerely, FlameOn/Tangy
FIFY
Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:14 pm to Zamoro10
Kiffen is doing the stand-up thing. The Coaches poll is a joke. Some coaches have their SID's or others fill out the ranking list because they don't have time, some inflate their own standing and most (or all) rank the teams they play and those team's opponents higher than they should be. Kiffen is honest to admit it too!
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:17 pm to Rocket
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FIFY
I'll take that 6th FIFY a refusal to answer and a deferment to the response another one posted for you- the one where the answer was basically bitching about 2003.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:47 pm to FightOn4ever
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Rocket, I am still trying(unsuccessfully) to win this pissing contest and am trying to pain you in a corner. I've been a huge douchebag and you have no obligation/responsibility to answer my questions as a result. You and Bozo and Pj and a bunch of other LSU fans routinely slap me around. LSU has won 2 BCS national title games while we(USC) have only won 1. I know the reason you give me shite has nothing to do with what happened in 2003 but I'm still desperately and pathetically trying to save face and I know it's because I am nothing but a flamer/troll and deserve any shite you give me. I'm terrible. My life sucks. My pride is wrapped up in the USC football team, and now we have a coach who has the attitude of a spoiled brat. It's a good thing Ed Orangutan can coach d-line but because he was the worst head coach in Ole Miss history. Does anyone know if he still beats his wife? I am just making up stuff about you regarding Joe McKnight. I know Bozo speaks for himself and not for you but I'm losing my head. I just have run out of tactics and strategies to shut you up. I'm desperate. But I am too immature to swallow my pride and exit this thread for good. It's just my huge douchebagness. I'm not smart enough to realize that I lost along time ago. What are the directions to your house? Can you send a cab for me? I need to come get my goat that is at your house. Sincerely, FlameON/Tangy
FIFY
Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:51 pm to Rocket
Thank you for confirming my assumption.
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