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re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:37 am to BlacknGold
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:37 am to BlacknGold
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the Nameks were worthless during that saga. The series did a horrible job of keeping Piccolo relevant
Piccolo handled Frieza in his second form. He wasn't strong enough to keep up in his third form, but he was relevant at that point. Then he really became relevant again when he beat the shite out of Imperfect Cell, and matched Android 17 blow for blow. Even if it's only one Namekian, it shows that they are, and can be a very powerful race.
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i understand the Saiyans are #1. thats fine. but you need something else to sustain story. this is why we got 7yr old ssjs
I get that you'll always need more as the story goes along, but I don't think this is why Trunks and Goten were made into Super Saiyans at such a young age. Toriyama could have just made up a new threatening race, and ran with it.
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this also goes against their own history. frieza AND his henchmen looked down on the saiyans as a race. there were once a large number of races that were stronger than the saiyans. i have no issue with saiyans being #1. it just happened too fast.
I certainly agree that some of the ssj stuff happened too fast. Aside from that, many races may have been stronger at the time, but didn't have nearly the capabilities or potential of the Saiyans.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:44 am to Poxxxx says GFR
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really became relevant again when he beat the shite out of Imperfect Cell, and matched Android 17 blow for blow. Even if it's only one Namekian, it shows that they are, and can be a very powerful race.
piccolo was relevant durning frieza. i agree. im saying after it took a nose dive. yeah, he had his moments during cell, which is possibly why its the best saga. he and tien and other mattered. however it was for a short period and after cell, it completely went away
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Toriyama could have just made up a new threatening race, and ran with it.
right. my point is, he DIDNT. he trivialized ssjs and made it a joke. im saying he shouldnt have gone this route. he should have either done something to beef up other Z fighters and introduce something that matters. dont take away from what you built up.
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many races may have been stronger at the time, but didn't have nearly the capabilities or potential of the Saiyans.
again, this sucks. its why the buu saga was a mess. it was Saiyan or nothing. he wrote himself into a corner and did a poor job of backing out of it.
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