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Is joining a union the way to go?
Posted on 7/7/12 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/7/12 at 4:51 pm
Basically I started a new job about a month ago, and in 2 months or so I will have the option to join, or not join the union.
Now the union has their own pension system, insurance, and the whole 9 yards, but the company does as well. I have access to the company's 401(k) numbers (50% match for the first 6%), but don't have access to the union's yet.
If the numbers are similar, would it be better to join or not? I'm not too experienced with the whole union thing, looking for general info as well. TIA
Now the union has their own pension system, insurance, and the whole 9 yards, but the company does as well. I have access to the company's 401(k) numbers (50% match for the first 6%), but don't have access to the union's yet.
If the numbers are similar, would it be better to join or not? I'm not too experienced with the whole union thing, looking for general info as well. TIA
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 6:19 pm to The Future
your union pension comes from your dues, which you could invest yourself.
I would say it makes sense if the jobsite makes it easier on the union members. My experience is most people who don't join are ornery sorts.
ETA: And while the law says the union has to look out for all employees, even the non-union ones, don't expect them to do anything for you around disciplinary action by the company.
I would say it makes sense if the jobsite makes it easier on the union members. My experience is most people who don't join are ornery sorts.
ETA: And while the law says the union has to look out for all employees, even the non-union ones, don't expect them to do anything for you around disciplinary action by the company.
This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/12 at 7:14 pm to The Future
Unions can promise anything, but have no obligation to deliver on their promises. By not joining the union things could be worse, better or the same as if you joined. The only certainty is that you'll be paying union dues. As the other poster pointed out, typically unions don't work very hard for non-union employees. I value having a direct line of communication between myself and my employer. Having a union intermediary doesn't work for me. Nationally, union membership is at historically low levels. The recent economic decline has really ushered in a new wave of union proliferation.
This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 7/7/12 at 7:20 pm to The Future
Unions suck. End fricking thread.
Posted on 7/7/12 at 9:38 pm to The Future
What kind of job do you have?
Operator?
Welder?
Pipe fitter?
Teacher?
Wait...it doesnt matter...the time of unions being needed is way past.
Operator?
Welder?
Pipe fitter?
Teacher?
Wait...it doesnt matter...the time of unions being needed is way past.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 8:38 am to The Future
Are you lazy and looking to throw up bureaucratic impediments to having to work?
Do you want your union dues going to support the Democratic Party?
If the answer to either is yes then you definitely should join.
Do you want your union dues going to support the Democratic Party?
If the answer to either is yes then you definitely should join.
Posted on 7/9/12 at 12:02 am to The Future
Dude, Frick the union. They only want your money and will shite on you any chance they get.
My .02
My .02
This post was edited on 7/9/12 at 12:04 am
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