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re: How meaningful are STARS? Player evaluations
Posted on 6/12/12 at 2:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 6/12/12 at 2:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
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According to this, Vinson was ranked 4th.
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louisiana had it's lowest ranked class in many years in 2010
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[quote]Where are you getting that from? It wasn't considered as good as 2009 or 2011, but was still a pretty good class. LSU finished ranked 6th on rivals that year. Many of the players you listed: Mathieu, Simon, Ried were all 4 stars, Wing was a 3 and the #5 kicker, all of them were 3*.
Let me ask you a question. do you think Les Miles and Nick Saban are star gazers? Did they both offer Robert Nkimdiche because he is a 5 star, or because they watched the tape and think he will be really good?
For that matter, do you think they signed any of the 5 star flops you mention because they don't know what they are doing or is it because its an inexact science?
1) i said louisiana, not lsu. check out the last time louisiana didn't have a single five star athlete. However, i would venture to say that t.m. and reid have played like five star guys.
2) no, i think they evaluate talent. I never said Robert Nkimdiche wasn't good? not sure what you getting at. didn't say all five stars are bust. some make it, some don't. i just don't look at the recuiting rankings as an exact science. you ranked high, therefore, you will win big. sometimes it correlates, sometimes it doesn't.
3)Nope, i think they sign some five star flops for two reasons. 1) because it's not an exact science. Even the pro's miss. 2) regional recruiting.
Al woods was a big athletic kid in your backyard. They may have said, great size, he plays high, maybe we can teach him to play low? however, we can't let this kid go somewhere else because we aren't sure we can sign someone else with better technique/ability out of california.
Posted on 6/12/12 at 3:32 pm to dos crystal
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) i said louisiana, not lsu. check out the last time louisiana didn't have a single five star athlete
and I meant La, not LSU. La does not have a 5* every year. It happens all the time, if not every other year, 2 out of 5. 2010 La produced plenty of high level 4*'s that year. I thought 2008 was considered a lesser year, only 1 guy ranked in the top 100 and zero in the top 50. That's unusual.
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. didn't say all five stars are bust. some make it, some don't. i just don't look at the recuiting rankings as an exact science
then why are you throwing out random examples of players that bust? You and the OP seem to be holding the rankings to an exact science even if you realize they are not, then you know that there will always be busts, always be teams that have highly ranked classes that have bad seasons ect.
I don't think anyone is saying the rankings are a gold standard. So what if Reid was a 4 and not a 5 star? At a 4 he was expect to be a very good player and that's what he is.
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i think they sign some five star flops for two reasons
Right, they all have boards, where they rank guys and they will miss on some and hit on other. That's why you want to sign as many as you can, that way if Al Woods craps out it doesn't matter. That's why I think you should sign at least 1 QB in every class, even if you got a 5 star last year. If the 5 star pans out, the otehr kid can transfer if he doesn't get on the field, if he doesn't you have a fall back option.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 3:43 pm
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