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re: SIAP: Mike Slive cowers down to status quo, changes South Carolina vs. Arkansas
Posted on 5/29/12 at 11:24 pm to BoobieWatcher
Posted on 5/29/12 at 11:24 pm to BoobieWatcher
I like 6 - 2 - 1 format as well. You can still schedule a nice non conference home and away each year you just have to have your home game in a given series the same year you are shorthanded on conference home games. This gaurantees at least 7 home games every year.
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 12:17 am to Govt Tide
LSU and Fla have rarely reeled off many in a row vs the other foe, since the SOS era ended.
Time for a fair and balanced schedule, and with Tenn's in-state talent issues coupled to Saban residing in T-Town, that isn't gonna happen anytime soon in that "rivalry"..
Let fair and balanced divisional schedules pit the best in the East vs West in Atlanta, it's long overdue..
Those in favor of LSU-Fla staying intact think it's just sheer coincidence that the two powers have never squared-off in Atlanta some two decades later since the SECCG's inception? Wake Up!
1996 LSU loses to Fla & Bama., tying Tide at 6-2. UA to the SEC CG on the tie-breaker. A win over some other East foe, and LSU-UF Part Two happens.
2001, Florida loses to Tenn, blocking a LSU-UF Part Two in CG.
2005 Florida losses at LSU, finishes 1 game behind UGA, whom they beat..otherwise LSU-UF Part Two in Atl.
2007 Fla loses to LSU, finishing 1 game behind UGA & Tenn. They beat UT, but lost to UGA..unsure of tie-breaker that year?
A minimum of 3 or 4 times the LSU-UF rivalry greatly factored into the possibility of a LSU-Fla rematch in Atlanta, over 20 yrs.
And more importantly, LSU was utterly impotent for five of the 20 seasons('92,'93,'94,'98,'99) with no bowl chances, thus it has factored around once every five years for LSU-Fla(3 or 4 times in 15 seasons where both contended), around 20% of the time bare minimum.
The SECCG has featured a rematch of a regular season game a total of six times (1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2010), none of which were amongst regular season permanent cross-rivals? 0-for-20 permanent cross-div foe rematches!? Is that stat correct? Hard to believe if true. Then again, maybe not!
The team who won the regular season game is 5-1 in the rematches, the lone exception being in 2001 when LSU defeated Tennessee in the championship game after losing to them in the regular season. Which stands to rationale, that if the regular season loss alone wasn't enough to deny a school a trip to Atlanta, beating them when you couldn't the first time, is rather daunting.
That, and the SEC having the Natty Champ emerge 10 of the last 20 yrs(Fla 3, Bama 3, LSU 2, Tenn 1, Aub 1)..means tough sledding to want play the powerhouse of the state of Fla, plus the toughest division in D-1, in LSU's case!
Time for a fair and balanced schedule, and with Tenn's in-state talent issues coupled to Saban residing in T-Town, that isn't gonna happen anytime soon in that "rivalry"..
Let fair and balanced divisional schedules pit the best in the East vs West in Atlanta, it's long overdue..
Those in favor of LSU-Fla staying intact think it's just sheer coincidence that the two powers have never squared-off in Atlanta some two decades later since the SECCG's inception? Wake Up!
1996 LSU loses to Fla & Bama., tying Tide at 6-2. UA to the SEC CG on the tie-breaker. A win over some other East foe, and LSU-UF Part Two happens.
2001, Florida loses to Tenn, blocking a LSU-UF Part Two in CG.
2005 Florida losses at LSU, finishes 1 game behind UGA, whom they beat..otherwise LSU-UF Part Two in Atl.
2007 Fla loses to LSU, finishing 1 game behind UGA & Tenn. They beat UT, but lost to UGA..unsure of tie-breaker that year?
A minimum of 3 or 4 times the LSU-UF rivalry greatly factored into the possibility of a LSU-Fla rematch in Atlanta, over 20 yrs.
And more importantly, LSU was utterly impotent for five of the 20 seasons('92,'93,'94,'98,'99) with no bowl chances, thus it has factored around once every five years for LSU-Fla(3 or 4 times in 15 seasons where both contended), around 20% of the time bare minimum.
The SECCG has featured a rematch of a regular season game a total of six times (1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2010), none of which were amongst regular season permanent cross-rivals? 0-for-20 permanent cross-div foe rematches!? Is that stat correct? Hard to believe if true. Then again, maybe not!
The team who won the regular season game is 5-1 in the rematches, the lone exception being in 2001 when LSU defeated Tennessee in the championship game after losing to them in the regular season. Which stands to rationale, that if the regular season loss alone wasn't enough to deny a school a trip to Atlanta, beating them when you couldn't the first time, is rather daunting.
That, and the SEC having the Natty Champ emerge 10 of the last 20 yrs(Fla 3, Bama 3, LSU 2, Tenn 1, Aub 1)..means tough sledding to want play the powerhouse of the state of Fla, plus the toughest division in D-1, in LSU's case!
This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 12:31 am
Posted on 5/30/12 at 12:25 am to Govt Tide
Not responding to anyone in particular just some thoughts on some of the points mentioned...
Having one rotating slot from the other division is terrible. You go so far between games it's like some of the other teams aren't even in your conference.
Playing 9 conference games is even worse. Schedules will already be uneven between teams competing for a division championship, it will be worse if one has 5 home games and the other has 4. ETA: This also greatly affects the flexibility to schedule series against other BCS programs OOC.
Teams that play neutral site conference games are not forced to do so. If they want to give up a home game that's their decision.
The Big 12 didn't blow up because Nebraska and Oklahoma played two years and then were off two years. Playing twice every 4 years instead of every year didn't diminish the history between the schools nor the significance of the games when they did play.
The Big 12 melted down because of one school and their superiority complex.
Having one rotating slot from the other division is terrible. You go so far between games it's like some of the other teams aren't even in your conference.
Playing 9 conference games is even worse. Schedules will already be uneven between teams competing for a division championship, it will be worse if one has 5 home games and the other has 4. ETA: This also greatly affects the flexibility to schedule series against other BCS programs OOC.
Teams that play neutral site conference games are not forced to do so. If they want to give up a home game that's their decision.
The Big 12 didn't blow up because Nebraska and Oklahoma played two years and then were off two years. Playing twice every 4 years instead of every year didn't diminish the history between the schools nor the significance of the games when they did play.
The Big 12 melted down because of one school and their superiority complex.
This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 12:30 am
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