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re: LSU featured on college football live on ESPN
Posted on 5/25/12 at 4:09 am to loweralabamatrojan
Posted on 5/25/12 at 4:09 am to loweralabamatrojan
quote:I didn't bring up our championships. But, yes, 2 of ours are in that era. In the last decade, in fact.
you didn't qualify your championships as "in the ESPN era"
quote:Consensus equals neither truth nor fact. Never has, never will. The moment the BCS came into existence in 1998, there existed for the first time in major college football a National Championship based directly (to some degree) on the results of games played on the field. At that moment, championships "awarded" by polls became as relevant as national championships awarded by polls in the NFL, NBA, college basketball, college baseball, Div. 1AA football, NHL, etc., etc. I don't care if you (or ESPN, or the BCS, or anyone else, or everyone else) claims otherwise. Opinion is not at issue, here, thus neither is consensus. One championship is won by winning on the field. Championships that are "awarded" by popularity are meaningless in a discussion of what is "earned".
Also, the 2003 split NC happened. The BCS recognizes it as a split and many of your more rational Tiger fans do as well
quote:The context is pretty clear, just as it was to the NCAA. SC won it's National Championship by cheating as part of a general culture of cheating in athletics at the university. The same principles that led to boosters paying off Mayo led to Bush getting bunches of money and other benefits with the coach's and the associate AD's approvals.
As far as trying to tie OJ Mayo and a "tennis chick" to USC football?
Go back to your definition of context
But even if you want to pretend they are relevant in some effort to "be real", then we'd have to bring in the rest of the discussion involving all the allegations that weren't proven. Like Mike Williams getting free rent (again, with the coach's knowledge), for example. If you want to exclude them based on the "context" that they were never sanctioned by the NCAA for that, then you have to accept that Mayo and the tennis chick are related within that same "context".
Posted on 5/25/12 at 4:13 am to King Joey
KJ, remind me to never tangle with you
Posted on 5/25/12 at 4:48 am to King Joey
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Also, the 2003 split NC happened. The BCS recognizes it as a split and many of your more rational Tiger fans do as well
Consensus equals neither truth nor fact. Never has, never will. The moment the BCS came into existence in 1998, there existed for the first time in major college football a National Championship based directly (to some degree) on the results of games played on the field. At that moment, championships "awarded" by polls became as relevant as national championships awarded by polls in the NFL, NBA, college basketball, college baseball, Div. 1AA football, NHL, etc., etc. I don't care if you (or ESPN, or the BCS, or anyone else, or everyone else) claims otherwise. Opinion is not at issue, here, thus neither is consensus. One championship is won by winning on the field. Championships that are "awarded" by popularity are meaningless in a discussion of what is "earned"
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