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Two Things That Bother Me About "Titanic"

Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:07 am
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:07 am
1.) This is an obvious one and it has bothered many others but why didn't Rose move over and let jack use the headboard also to try to float on and survive? Rewatching the movie (i saw it in 3d at the theater, the headboard was supporting her weight very well and was floating evenly. All I am saying is that they should have at least tried to both float.

2.) The amount of time Jack and Rose spent in the water on the boat without showing Any effects of the cold water was really unbelievable. They were in neck deep water for a good amount of time in that hall way. The water was reportedly 28 to 31F degrees that night. Water like that or anywhere near that temperature would feel like sharp knives piercing you. They swam around in it and we're able to get out and run around showing no signs of being cold or anything. Considering the trying times they were in and the desperation, I could understand adrenaline kicking in but not enough to keep you moving full steam ahead with no affects in that temperature of water.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:16 am to
Mythbusters: Titanic
Posted by Superior Pariah
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:20 am to
One thing I don't get is why you care about such insignificant plotholes. Jack doesn't get on so he can die and women across America can cry. They don't show effects of being in cold water so they could act and not shiver through their lines the wholes time. It's a hollywood epic brah.
Posted by STERLING
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:38 am to
quote:

One thing I don't get is why you care about such insignificant plotholes. Jack doesn't get on so he can die and women across America can cry. They don't show effects of being in cold water so they could act and not shiver through their lines the wholes time. It's a hollywood epic brah.


Exactly. Reminds me of people who complain about movies like Rambo. "That's such bullshite, like 1 dude could really defeat Vietman in a matter of weeks. The American military spent decades over there & lost."
Posted by miamitiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:41 am to
One question I have wondered if men would let women and children be on the boats todays time, or does the women equal rights pops up and their asses drown?
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:41 am to
Jack did try to get on it with her at first and the headboard started to flip over, that was when he had her stay on it and he just stayed in the water.

The water in the boat might not have felt as cold since the power was still on and so the heaters would still have been blowing hot air through the vents. That is the most logical stupid answer i can offer
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:42 am to
quote:

One thing I don't get is why you care about such insignificant plotholes. Jack doesn't get on so he can die and women across America can cry. They don't show effects of being in cold water so they could act and not shiver through their lines the wholes time. It's a hollywood epic brah.


I actually enjoyed the movie a lot. Im a fan of insignificant plot hole discussion though
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:45 am to
quote:

One question I have wondered if men would let women and children be on the boats todays time


That is an interesting question. I think that people would be less cordial and gentlemanly nowadays and in the situation of "women and children first", things would get more hostile on a ship now than back then.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Jack did try to get on it with her at first and the headboard started to flip over, that was when he had her stay on it and he just stayed in the water.


I guess I just didn't notice that. And I have seen this thing like a million times

quote:

The water in the boat might not have felt as cold since the power was still on and so the heaters would still have been blowing hot air through the vents. That is the most logical stupid answer i can offer


No lie. A friend of mine said basically the same thing. That the boat would have warned up the water significantly. I like that answer.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:52 am to
derail warning:

the whole women and children thing really piss me off. I mean i'd let my wife and kids on the boat but it shouldn't be a free for all. Since men were the breadwinnners back then you should let them live and the women drown so they can still provide for their families. Not to mention the toll it would take on several companies having to replace dead employees.

sorry, women of the early 1900s, you'd drown on my boat.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:54 am to
I thought about the women and children thing a lot. A lot of big business pioneers/entrepreneur men had to have been killed in this. It was a hit to the economy and many families Left without bread winner husbands.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 9:58 am
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:09 am to
Perhaps the Titanic was the real reason behind the Great Depression. Hmmm.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:14 am to
The problem with women and children first is that the officers on the Titanic took the order too literally. Yes, women and children were to be allowed on the lifeboats first. But if there weren't any around, and only men were standing nearby, the officers were to let the men on the lifeboats. Instead most of the officers manning the boats thought that Captain Smith meant women and children only.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:19 am to
It's a shame how many boats went down half full. They could have saved hundreds of more lives. Unbelievable tragedy.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:25 am to
I went to the Titanic Exhibit in Vegas a few years back and it was very interesting to see the stuff that was brought back up to the surface. There was a doctor's leather medical bag that was practically untarnished. People's shoes, eye glasses, the fine china...so crazy that it was at the bottom of the ocean. At the beginning of the tour you pick a passenger card that has the name of a passenger, their age, occupation, and what class they were on the ship. At the end of the tour there was a wall with all passenger names on it you can check to see if you lived or died. Sadly, my passenger died. I did get a cool pic of me on the grand staircase though!
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 10:30 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Exactly. Reminds me of people who complain about movies like Rambo. "That's such bullshite, like 1 dude could really defeat Vietman in a matter of weeks. The American military spent decades over there & lost."




That's not really a valid comparision.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:35 am to
That sounds like something I would like to go to. I am somewhat fascinated by anything titanic related. I dvr'd and watched pretty much every special that ran this past weekend about the 100 year anniversary. Even watched the ABC miniseries that was on Saturday and Sunday.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:38 am to
what bothers me was that Rose spent one weekend slumming it with Leo on a big boat and she ends up with that guy in heaven. instead of her husband who spent decades with her.

but now looking back i begin to think that maybe the husband's version of heaven was to not be with Rose. maybe he's snorting blow off of strippers up there like he would've been on earth if that bitch had cashed in that necklace instead of sitting on it for years just to throw it into the ocean. I mean what the absolute frick, rose??!!
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:53 am to
quote:

what bothers me was that Rose spent one weekend slumming it with Leo on a big boat and she ends up with that guy in heaven. instead of her husband who spent decades with her.


LINK

This site has "uncomfortable plot summaries". I couldn't help but laugh at titanic summary.

quote:

TITANIC: Crazy old widow disregards lifelong memories of husband, children, and grandchildren in favor of that one time she fricked a bum.



Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:07 am to
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TITANIC: Crazy old widow disregards lifelong memories of husband, children, and grandchildren in favor of that one time she fricked a bum.
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EXACTLY!!!!


i was dating a girl at the time and we saw that together and that's what i talked about on the ride home. she didn't share my POV. oh well.


edit: it's b/c i don't identify with someone as hot as OT Leo, i identify more with the husband.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 11:09 am
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