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re: Rumors about Peyton Manning
Posted on 2/16/12 at 11:24 am to ColtsTigers
Posted on 2/16/12 at 11:24 am to ColtsTigers
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Nope, I'm just listing multiple characteristics that make up system QBs
per your defination.
A system QB is QB's at Texas Tech under Leach.
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It's strong enough when the system is giving him open receivers
what system is there that has WR make sure they are covered?
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It's not strong enough on 3rd and long, when Schaub (or Ryan) often dumps it short of the first down because he can't make the elite throws like QBs with stronger arms can
You are wrong, dumping off could be either bad decision making, WR that are not open, bad play calling, any number of things. 3 and long is a low % down, its not like elite QB's make 3rd and long over 50%.
There are only a handful of truly elite QB's, but 32 teams, its up to the coach to desgin schemes and systems to best use the talent he has.
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I'm just saying that it isn't like QB isn't a position that couldn't be upgraded.
Almost any position on any team can be upgraded. I am not arguing that Schaub is an elite QB, he is not. But this is not fantasty FB where you can just upgrade. The only reaslitic way to upgrade is to draft someone that turns out better. There are too many questions about Manning to take the risk given that the Texans have a pro bowl level QB, a great D and an offense that is run oriented. Games where the QB will have to carry the team are few and far between and don't always occur in the playoffs. And BTW before this year, would you have thought Alex Smith could out duel Brees? So the fact Schaub hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't.
If I could just pick a QB, I'd take Rodgers, but the world doesn't work that way.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 11:45 am to H-Town Tiger
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There are too many questions about Manning to take the risk given that the Texans have a pro bowl level QB, a great D and an offense that is run oriented.
If Manning were to wait until later in the offseason to sign, and then it was determined that his arm is back to normal, I would certainly try to sign him if I'm the Texans. That is assuming that Mario Williams signs elsewhere, which would open up a lot of cap room.
But if Manning wants to sign right away, then I agree, too much risk for Houston.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 1:24 pm to H-Town Tiger
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A system QB is QB's at Texas Tech under Leach.
I would also add that every QB is made a little bit different, thus a QB being in an offense that maximizes his potential isn't a bad thing. I'm not saying Manning would be garbage in Bruce Arien's offense, but Roth obviously couldn't run Peyton's offense in Indy.
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