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Saban's gameplan shows a lot of respect to LSU
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:28 am
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:28 am
Saban thought enough of the challenge LSU posed to gameplan the hell out of us. Throwing on almost ever 1st down, saving TR till the second half(when even the dumba$$ announcers were questioning the move), going 2 TE and leaking them on 10 post outs when TM was covering to take advantage of the height mismatch...thats alot of wrinkles from Saban, they usually just do thier thing, not change it up. On the otherhand we walk in and run the same ineffective tired crap with JJ. IMO a total lack of respect and awareness of reality to think that Saban with 4 weeks to prepare wouldn't take JJ and the run game away. LM needs to read the ART of War.
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Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:35 am to SwampdogDC
I think this gameplan (Saban's) was pretty similar to the 2009 LSU/Bama game. With a talent like Julio Jones, of course, Saban threw the ball the majority of the first half. LSU makes adjustments to the pass at half time, and then Saban gives a steady dose of Ingram in the second half, which pretty much sealed it for Bama after Charles Scott went down.
Actually, during the BSCNCG, Saban didn't really roll out TR/Lacy until about the last 5 or 6 minutes of the third. The game was pretty much over by then, so why risk a pick six.
Actually, during the BSCNCG, Saban didn't really roll out TR/Lacy until about the last 5 or 6 minutes of the third. The game was pretty much over by then, so why risk a pick six.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 7:36 am
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:39 am to SwampdogDC
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going 2 TE and leaking them on 10 post outs when TM was covering to take advantage of the height
Kevin Norwood and Kenny bell are not TE's
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:47 am to KBeezy
Im not rewatching that crap, but those were WR outs you are referring to i believe. I'm referring to the post outs run from the slot, but either way, those wrinkles we had no answer for...sad.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:49 am to LuckySo-n-So
If you ask me throwing on 1st down towards the guy TM was covering was the only thing that would work. He was the weak spot in the secondary due to his size. Everybody from California to Florida knew LSU would focus on TR, so throwing on 1st down was a good strategic move but one that could have been predicted.
I was surprised that you ran the option as much as you did. Anybody looking at this game had to know that Saban would be ready for it, just like LSU was ready for TR. It would have been smart to use that option as a decoy for a pass down field or back to the other side. That could have racked up a lot of yards. Who knows if Lee would have been successful or not but I know you need something to counteract what the other team plans for against you.
I was surprised that you ran the option as much as you did. Anybody looking at this game had to know that Saban would be ready for it, just like LSU was ready for TR. It would have been smart to use that option as a decoy for a pass down field or back to the other side. That could have racked up a lot of yards. Who knows if Lee would have been successful or not but I know you need something to counteract what the other team plans for against you.
This post was edited on 1/13/12 at 7:50 am
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:52 am to bama1959
so im guessing Les didn't respect Saban an the tide...
Posted on 1/13/12 at 7:54 am to bama1959
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Anybody looking at this game had to know that Saban would be ready for it, just like LSU was ready for TR. It would have been smart to use that option as a decoy for a pass down field or back to the other side. That could have racked up a lot of yards. Who knows if Lee would have been successful or not but I know you need something to counteract what the other team plans for against you.
We'll never know.
taking nothing away from Bama, they executed a great gameplan.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:01 am to bama1959
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If you ask me throwing on 1st down towards the guy TM was covering was the only thing that would work. He was the weak spot in the secondary due to his size. Everybody from California to Florida knew LSU would focus on TR, so throwing on 1st down was a good strategic move but one that could have been predicted. I was surprised that you ran the option as much as you did. Anybody looking at this game had to know that Saban would be ready for it, just like LSU was ready for TR. It would have been smart to use that option as a decoy for a pass down field or back to the other side. That could have racked up a lot of yards. Who knows if Lee would have been successful or not but I know you need something to counteract what the other team plans for against you.
I have never played a meaningful down of football in my life, but I knew what Alabama's gameplan would be. I would not have known specifically how to stop it, but I damn sure knew that they would throw the ball more and attack TM7 and throw to Smelley.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:03 am to SwampdogDC
Saban planned around LSU keeping TR in check. Other then the TD run when the game was already pretty much over, LSU did a great job holding TR in check. He started with easy throws to the TEs to give McCarron confidence - then took shots downfield.
Miles, on the other hand, kept the same gameplan from the Georgia game where we failed to pick up a first down.
Miles, on the other hand, kept the same gameplan from the Georgia game where we failed to pick up a first down.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:09 am to SwampdogDC
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Im not rewatching that crap, but those were WR outs you are referring to i believe. I'm referring to the post outs run from the slot, but either way, those wrinkles we had no answer for...sad.
Nope. The flags/post corners (as we coaches call them) over TM7 were run from slot wide receivers. A TE never caught a pass longer than 15, and that was on the naked boot dump off to smelley that he turned up for a big gain.
Besides that play, TEs caught 10 passes for 46 yards. With the smelley big gain they still only averaged 5.7 yards per catch. They didn't do much damage downfield but were very effective on first down to keep bama in 2nd and 4 situations
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:40 am to KBeezy
I stand corrected, but the point is the same, they attacked TM form the slot on post outs, which we had no answer for. The overall point is it still is unbelievable to concieve LM going into the game with exactly what NS was expecting.
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:45 am to SwampdogDC
True. Saban and the Bama players definitely did not underestimate LSU the second time around. Unfortunately, LSU underestimated Bama in several ways. Thus, LSU got dominated. Could easily go the other way if there was a re-re-match. 
Posted on 1/13/12 at 8:50 am to SwampdogDC
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LM needs to read the ART of War.
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