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2 types QBs in the NFL should mean 2 types of teams in the NFL
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:28 pm
I listened to a sports talk show host last night that brought up this interesting point.
For the last 3 or more decades the NFL has been a quarterback driven league, yet there are only about, what, 6-10 franchise quarterbacks at one time in the league? That leaves all the other teams without quality quarterbacks.
This is how the average team finds and uses a quarterback: they draft a quarterback out of college, then let him have a period of understudy with the team's current quarterback, and then finally take the role as the starter. What we have is a college quarterback, a quarterback geared for college football and the option, coming to the NFL and learning a different system for quarterbacking just because it is the dominant system in the NFL.
What players/teams like Cam Newton/Panthers, Dalton/Bengals, Tebow/Broncos, and to a certain extent Alex Smith/49ers have shown is if you let the college quarterback play the position like they did in college, it is a better option than having a backup or "second tier" quarterback take a starting position. What this means is teams without a franchise quarterback should play offense to cater to their quarterback, not the other way around.
It's just another way you can win.
In Denver you had Kyle Orton forced to work in the NFL's standards for quarterbacks these days. He threw too many picks that gave the other team a short field to work with, making defense's job very difficult to keep that team out of the endzone and overall not very successful. Then the Broncos put Tebow in, but they allowed him to play the ball he knows. Sure it isn't pretty but what he does is not turn the ball over and make at least one big play a game to give the team an edge. By not turning the ball over he gives the defense breathing room allowing for them to make an easier stop.
This is why it's important to realize when, and these are the hosts words, "You are putting a round peg in a square hole." If you don't have the tools to match the teams with franchise quarterbacks in the league, then play the ball you know how to play don't cater to what the league thinks is standard for that one position.
For the last 3 or more decades the NFL has been a quarterback driven league, yet there are only about, what, 6-10 franchise quarterbacks at one time in the league? That leaves all the other teams without quality quarterbacks.
This is how the average team finds and uses a quarterback: they draft a quarterback out of college, then let him have a period of understudy with the team's current quarterback, and then finally take the role as the starter. What we have is a college quarterback, a quarterback geared for college football and the option, coming to the NFL and learning a different system for quarterbacking just because it is the dominant system in the NFL.
What players/teams like Cam Newton/Panthers, Dalton/Bengals, Tebow/Broncos, and to a certain extent Alex Smith/49ers have shown is if you let the college quarterback play the position like they did in college, it is a better option than having a backup or "second tier" quarterback take a starting position. What this means is teams without a franchise quarterback should play offense to cater to their quarterback, not the other way around.
It's just another way you can win.
In Denver you had Kyle Orton forced to work in the NFL's standards for quarterbacks these days. He threw too many picks that gave the other team a short field to work with, making defense's job very difficult to keep that team out of the endzone and overall not very successful. Then the Broncos put Tebow in, but they allowed him to play the ball he knows. Sure it isn't pretty but what he does is not turn the ball over and make at least one big play a game to give the team an edge. By not turning the ball over he gives the defense breathing room allowing for them to make an easier stop.
This is why it's important to realize when, and these are the hosts words, "You are putting a round peg in a square hole." If you don't have the tools to match the teams with franchise quarterbacks in the league, then play the ball you know how to play don't cater to what the league thinks is standard for that one position.
This post was edited on 12/8/11 at 1:34 pm
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:29 pm to Pectus
i thought you had an emotional breakdown and quit the board?
oh yea tl;dr
oh yea tl;dr
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:34 pm to rocket31
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i thought you had an emotional breakdown and quit the board?
oh yea tl;dr
What a waste of a post.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:42 pm to Pectus
That's a great point. Tebow is the perfect example. Everyone was so busy telling him that he would fail if he didn't change is throwing style. That same throwing style won him the Heisman, two national championships(1 with Chris Leak and himself right), and he will probably go down as one of the best players to ever play college ball (in our lifetime at least).
He changes it at the combine/Pro Day, and the experts say it's not good enough. He gets to the NFL, learns the playbook, and Josh McDaniels doesn't fit Tebow with the right scheme. Coaching staff loses faith in him, and McDaniels leaves.
John Fox comes over, and let's Tebow dictate the offense. Result? Tebow is 6-1 as a starter this year. Yes, I know Tebow is playing with a great defense, but like the caller said, Tebow doesn't turn the ball over, and he makes the right reads, and comes up clutch when his team needs him. Unless you are the Packers, Patriots, Saints or the Colts (with Manning), you would be stupid to not want Tebow on your team (until defenses figure him out)
He changes it at the combine/Pro Day, and the experts say it's not good enough. He gets to the NFL, learns the playbook, and Josh McDaniels doesn't fit Tebow with the right scheme. Coaching staff loses faith in him, and McDaniels leaves.
John Fox comes over, and let's Tebow dictate the offense. Result? Tebow is 6-1 as a starter this year. Yes, I know Tebow is playing with a great defense, but like the caller said, Tebow doesn't turn the ball over, and he makes the right reads, and comes up clutch when his team needs him. Unless you are the Packers, Patriots, Saints or the Colts (with Manning), you would be stupid to not want Tebow on your team (until defenses figure him out)
This post was edited on 12/8/11 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:45 pm to Pectus
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Posted on 12/8/11 at 1:46 pm to Pectus
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to a certain extent Alex Smith/49ers
You lost me here. Smith ran the Urban Meyer, spread option at Utah - exclusively out of the shotgun.
Smith now runs a West coast offense, primarily under center, and mostly in 2 TE looks.
Posted on 12/8/11 at 3:39 pm to Stagg8
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to a certain extent Alex Smith/49ers
You lost me here. Smith ran the Urban Meyer, spread option at Utah - exclusively out of the shotgun.
Smith now runs a West coast offense, primarily under center, and mostly in 2 TE looks.
Yeah I wasn't too keen on that one comparioson, that's why I put to a certain extent.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 6:22 pm to Pectus
Bump, apropos.
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