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osu didnt even play this week and they have what every voter considers at least a top 10 team in oklahoma next week. they blow them out, then things get real interesting real fast

I just think this is wishful thinking. I am working on the hypothetical that Bama is the unanimous #2 in both the Coaches and the Harris Poll. I'm pretty sure Matt said that OSU had to have at least 25-30% of the #2 votes and all the #3 votes. They would have 0% of the 2s and will still be splitting 3s with Stanford.

Voters clearly think Bama is better than Oklahoma State. And I don't think a win over what would be a 9-3 Oklahoma without their best player is gonna do anything to change that opinion. So, there would have to be a significant movement to vote--not for who they think is the better team, that clearly is Bama--but AGAINST a rematch. I don't think that movement makes up enough ground in 1 week. I just don't. And I don't think it should. If you think Bama is the 2nd best team in college football, you fricking rank them #2. It doesn't matter if it's not the matchup you want. That's not your job. Your job is to rank teams, preferably by the same criteria you have been all season. Or at least, the same criteria you used only 7 days earlier.

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Posted by WikiTiger

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Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:31 pm to Hot Carl

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If you think Bama is the 2nd best team in college football, you fricking rank them #2. It doesn't matter if it's not the matchup you want. That's not your job. Your job is to rank teams, preferably by the same criteria you have been all season. Or at least, the same criteria you used only 7 days earlier.

Do you honestly think that an 11-1 Alabama who didn't even win their division deserves to be ranked higher than an 11-1 Okie St. that will have won their BCS conference OUTRIGHT (the highest ranked BCS conference, I should add) AND has a tougher schedule and a higher computer ranking than Alabama?

You honestly think that looking at the two resumes of those teams that Alabama still deserves to be #2?

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Posted by DBG

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Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:32 pm to Hot Carl

from the sec rant, a harris poll voter blog:

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George Schroeder 11/27/11 12:32am Everything seems to be pointing toward an all-SEC BCS Championship game. LSU was very impressive in dismantling then-No. 3 Arkansas. Alabama rolled over rival Auburn (at Auburn). Oklahoma State was idle. Can the Cowboys -- I've got them No. 3 this week -- vault to No. 2 with a win over Oklahoma? I don't know. Not sure how I would vote if it happened. Alabama has been very impressive, and its only loss was to LSU in overtime. The Tide has a convincing win over Arkansas, and a nice win at Penn State. But the overall resume isn't fantastic; after LSU and Alabama (and if you must, go ahead and include Arkansas -- I'm not so sure) the SEC is waaaaay down. Frankly, the league is weak. That doesn't mean Alabama isn't very good. IT doesn't mean the nation's two best teams aren't sitting there in the SEC West. It just means it's harder to tell than usual. (I'm opposed, by the way, to the idea that a team can play for the national title without winning its conference. But it has happened before and ... there might be no other viable option.) Oklahoma State's loss to Iowa State is a potential killer. But if the Cowboys beat the Sooners on Saturday in Stillwater, their resume will be pretty nice. On the other hand, I watch their defense and shudder. One thing is for sure: We'll hear about what ought to be done all week long. I'll wait and see what happens next week before making up my mind. (Note: I would have USC, which has been as impressive as any team other than LSU down the stretch, ranked somewhere in the Top 10, but the Harris Poll doesn't allow teams on NCAA probation to be ranked by voters.) Here's my ballot:

at least 1 voter is willing to entertain the notion of bumping osu next week

This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 12:34 pm

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Posted by crimsonsaint

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Posted on 11/28/11 at 12:14 pm to Hot Carl

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So, there would have to be a significant movement to vote--not for who they think is the better team, that clearly is Bama--but AGAINST a rematch. I don't think that movement makes up enough ground in 1 week. I just don't. And I don't think it should. If you think Bama is the 2nd best team in college football, you fricking rank them #2.

If voters think OSU is the second best team, then that's fine. If voters believe Bama is the second best, but vote OSU #2 simply to avoid a rematch, then the BCS is a crock of shite.

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