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re: 2 Reasons why JJ has become the starter.

Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:02 am to
Posted by just me
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:02 am to
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Lee's numbers come from a larger sample size of more play this season.
Lee has 166 attempts. Jefferson has 120 attempts since Bama '10. The sample sizes are comparable.
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:05 am to
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Why didn't you circle completion percentage? or attempts? touchdowns?
Why didn't I circle everything?!?!

The completion percentage numbers are pretty similar. However, Lee leads.

The attempts are much higher for Lee. He has played much more so one would expect him to have more attempts.

Lee has more passing touchdowns. Jefferson is usually called upon to run for TDs. Lee isn't called upon to run for touchdowns. However, Lee leads in passing touchdowns.

But you miss the point. The post was made in response to the replies to this post:
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i am not even sure JL is a better passer.
Lee leads in some passing categories. Jefferson leads in some passing categories.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:23 am to
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since Bama '10. The sample sizes are comparable.

Why are you starting at Bama 10?
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:25 am to
My question is why does a mobile qb like Jefferson take so many sacks? I do think that Jefferson is a better passing qb on passes over 15 yards, but Lee is much better up to that point.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:25 am to
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Why are you starting at Bama 10?


I think we should include 2008. Would that be fair?
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:31 am to
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I think we should include 2008. Would that be fair?

Why stop there? Let's go back to high school.
This post was edited on 11/18/11 at 8:33 am
Posted by jtt1225
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:34 am to
JL will start this week.
Posted by bighead7
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:38 am to
Everyone (including myself) are so consumed with the QB argument that we loose sight as to what we really want...I thought about this for a little while and came up with the fact that I like Lee is because I was really enjoying watching Randle and Beckum make plays, not the QB but the recievers..Up until this year it actually looks like LSU has great players at the wide reciever position. The real question is would Beckum even be known to the LSU fan base had JJ started the whole year...Randle we knew about but I like his catching ability better than his blocking ability..The LSU recievers are the play makers not the QB's so why not give them the best chance possible for sucess...
Posted by Mindenfan
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:39 am to
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And don't reference the Western Kentucky game. That was a joke of a defense, and he didn't even start putting up points until the second half)
WKU had the ball for over 15 minutes barely into the second quarter. The DEFENSE is the reason there was so little offensive output in the first half. The defense was sluggish. The offense was not.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:44 am to
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but letting him run our offense full time is a loss waiting to happen.
Playing football games is a loss waiting to happen no matter who is playing quarterback.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:45 am to
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Lee has 166 attempts. Jefferson has 120 attempts since Bama '10. The sample sizes are comparable.


Yet you're also comparing last season to this season. That's not the most relevant information to use when deciding who starts when you consider JJ had a godawful start to 2010. Lee took the starting job this season and ran with it. The Bama game is really the only massive blemish for Lee this season. He hasn't been great, but neither has Jefferson.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:46 am to
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JJ is a more dangerous qb.


lulz.

quote:

defenses can easily game plan for JL, not the same with JJ.



yeah, those 2-12 60 yd passing games with 30 yds rushing against the likes of Vandy have DCs shaking in their boots.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:47 am to
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Why stop there? Let's go back to high school




IMO we should only judge each QB on this years stats. What happened in the past needs to be let go. We have new OC and a QB coach.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:48 am to
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yeah, those 2-12 60 yd passing games with 30 yds rushing against the likes of Vandy have DCs shaking in their boots.


Again you focus on the past season under different coaching and not taking into account improvement.

Are you intentionally being this obtuse?
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:50 am to
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JJ is much more difficult for defenses to prepare for


No doubt. Look at our offensive stats last year when he started all the games and the first 8 games of this year. Obviously JJ causes havoc for opposing DC's.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:52 am to
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The real question is would Beckum even be known to the LSU fan base had JJ started the whole year...Randle we knew about but I like his catching ability better than his blocking ability..The LSU recievers are the play makers not the QB's so why not give them the best chance possible for sucess...


I think that JL and JJ have both shown under new coaches, offensive system, playcalling that they both can get the ball to our playmakers.

I blame Crowton for both QB's not reaching their potential while at LSU.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:52 am to
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Look at our offensive stats last year when he started all the games and the first 8 games of this year


Apparently it is only acceptable to forget Lee's past and use JJ's to evaluate him. Seems fair
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:53 am to
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I blame Crowton for both QB's not reaching their potential while at LSU.



As should any rational LSU fan.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:54 am to
People we are winning! Chill out it doesn't matter who is QB we will out if we just don't get over confident.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 11/18/11 at 8:56 am to
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WKU had the ball for over 15 minutes barely into the second quarter. The DEFENSE is the reason there was so little offensive output in the first half. The defense was sluggish. The offense was not.
too much logic, get that shite outta here.

It was painfully obvious that the D felt Miles was disrespecting Lee and was boycotting Jefferson's play.
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