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re: Basis for changing QB's...What makes sense?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:12 am to CantonTiger128
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:12 am to CantonTiger128
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Let's quit wasting time on these guys doc.
Yes, do. This thread was fine until you showed up.
quote:
It's probably Jj or his family.
I'm guessing you don't actually believe that.
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:13 am to just me
quote:logical
Let's compare what Jefferson has done most recently not what he did farther back. Don't you want to use Lee's most recent games?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:17 am to TheDoc
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Because it's not the same
You're right. We've seen Lee play with another year of off season workouts and practices. We've seen him with a good QB coach and simplified offense. And our offense is still not as good to begin this season as it was to end last season.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:18 am to mtntiger
That situation sort of reminds me of the Aaron Rodgers vs. Brett Favre saga that happened back in '08. Ted Thompson kinda ushered him out because he knew Aaron was ready to start what looks to be a hall of fame career and.....BOOM. SB champs. So while it would be nice to have experienced depth at that position, I think after this year it'd be time to permanently move on from JJ. On the other hand, it would light a fire under METT's arse to go out and compete every single week if JJ were still there.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:19 am to TheDoc
You've tried numerous times and failed each time. The issue is LSU's total yardage. LSU gained far more yards in Jefferson's most recent three games than in Lee's most recent three games.
Even comparing to where Jefferson was at the beginning of last year, and not considering the improvement he made at the end of last year, or the improvement LSU has gained as the result of a new OC and QB coach, LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games of last year compared to Lee's first three games of this year.
I have not stooped to namecalling.
I have tried to be civil.
The facts are the facts:
Thank you.
Even comparing to where Jefferson was at the beginning of last year, and not considering the improvement he made at the end of last year, or the improvement LSU has gained as the result of a new OC and QB coach, LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games of last year compared to Lee's first three games of this year.
I have not stooped to namecalling.
I have tried to be civil.
The facts are the facts:
quote:
LSU gained far more yards in Jefferson's most recent three games than in Lee's most recent three games.
Even comparing to where Jefferson was at the beginning of last year, and not considering the improvement he made at the end of last year, or the improvement LSU has gained as the result of a new OC and QB coach, LSU gained more yards in Jefferson's first three games of last year compared to Lee's first three games of this year.
Thank you.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:20 am to ZTiger87
All debate aside, I want to add that I am very happy with Lee at QB right now.
But if JJ came back and beat Lee out. . .stands to reason that it only makes LSU a better team.
But if JJ came back and beat Lee out. . .stands to reason that it only makes LSU a better team.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:21 am to Roaad
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Precisely.
Which is Lee.
I agree.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:22 am to TIGRLEE
quote:I am considering improvement. I am not asking for a comparison of Lee's games from before this year. He has improved. No question. Let's use Lee's most recent games.
Good God.
Hard to reason with someone who looks at things this way.
I suppose the term imprvoe each week just doesnt register for you does it?
By the same reasoning, let's use Jefferson's most recent games.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:23 am to Roaad
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But if JJ came back and beat Lee out and Mett out. . .stands to reason that it only makes LSU a better team.
Fixed
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:23 am to lake chuck fan
Les would loose the game with JJ even if Lee gave us the best chance to win. I don't care who the qb is as long as he can lead the team. I think we are miles further with this year OF than last year. JJ has not played a down! 
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:24 am to ZTiger87
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And our offense is still not as good to begin this season as it was to end last season.
Have we watched the same games?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:25 am to just me
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I'm comparing the three most recent games for each. Jefferson had 3 BCS opponents. Lee did not. Maybe it's not fair to Jefferson.
I LOL at you calling Ole Miss a BCS opponent...like that means they are good....LMAO...they had the worst secondary in football last year. Arky game was not good....I don't know why you keep saying that...because arky had a bend don't break approach and he got a few yards....this is a stupid argument...lsu lost the damn game.....so you are worried about the player and not the team? wait, don't answer that...that is already obvious. AGAIN, Lee played half a game against NSU.....tell me JJ, I mean poster....how do you rate your/I mean jj's performance from week 2 - week 8? just curious..
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:26 am to TIGRLEE
quote:If he beats out Lee. . .he clearly beats out Mett.
Fixed
Mett can't beat out Lee.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:27 am to just me
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just me
Obviously not an educated man.....or an intelligent one. Small picture/world syndrome.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:27 am to Navytiger74
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Bit of a leap, yes?
At this point Lee may have beaten 3 ranked opponents already and Mett has shown he can play in trash time.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:28 am to CantonTiger128
quote:Is the SEC no longer a BCS conference?
I LOL at you calling Ole Miss a BCS opponent
quote:Good? No.
like that means they are good
Better than Northwestern St.? Yeah.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:28 am to CantonTiger128
quote:Oh
quote:
just me
Obviously not an educated man
Dear
Lord
You just need to stop.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:28 am to Roaad
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If he beats out Lee. . .he clearly beats out Mett.
Mett can't beat out Lee.
He may not get that whole transitive property thing. Logic doesn't apply to those who think that the coaches intentionally started the third best player on the roster.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:29 am to Navytiger74
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But down to the heart of the matter. What you'll find is that I, and many others, find many of the posters on this site to be obnoxious, disingenuous, and hypocritical about the whole thing (not saying you're one, I haven't read many of your posts). So I can say that I do find many of the members of Lee's self-appointed PR firm distasteful. That's not against Lee. That's against them. And if it seems as though I spend a lot of time defending Jefferson, it's because there is ample opportunity to do so.
Quoted for truth.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:29 am to Navytiger74
quote:That line of reasoning still makes me chuckle.
Logic doesn't apply to those who think that the coaches intentionally started the third best player on the roster.
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