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How many MNC games has LSU lost and won?
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:53 am
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:53 am
This is a post I put in the OT:
I believe the 73 Orange Bowl is the only game LSU lost and the winner was crowned the NC.
I believe the only other game with NC implications that we won(other than our two NC games and the 58 Tulane game), is the 1966 Cotton Bowl vs Arkansas. We beat them and they lost the NC.
Can you think of anymore? (I am talking a game where the winner is crowned the NC, not a mid-season beating of a#1 or #2)
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Tonight on Pawn Stars, a guy brought in a 1973 Orange Bowl Penn State ring. I was gonna call the shop tonight to see if it was for sale. They ended up not buying it because the engraving on the inside was scratched out and they say it is illegal to buy jewelry with the engraving scratched out. Anyone know why? The original owner of the ring was still on the outside. I am not sure if the metal mark was still there. I would have bought that thing for my collection.
I believe the 73 Orange Bowl is the only game LSU lost and the winner was crowned the NC.
I believe the only other game with NC implications that we won(other than our two NC games and the 58 Tulane game), is the 1966 Cotton Bowl vs Arkansas. We beat them and they lost the NC.
Can you think of anymore? (I am talking a game where the winner is crowned the NC, not a mid-season beating of a#1 or #2)
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:01 am to theantiquetiger
people in the west will tell you we lost half a championship to usc...
Posted on 9/13/11 at 3:19 am to Harry Caray
People in the west would be wrong
Posted on 9/13/11 at 3:59 am to jgree87
Did some digging, we lost to Nebraska in 1971 Orange Bowl, they were awarded the NC because both the #1 & #2 teams lost their bowl games,Neb. was #3.
This is interesting from Wiki:
In April 1970, Congress passed the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act banning the advertising of cigarettes on television and radio; in order to allow the New Year's Day football games to keep their already-sold cigarette ads, the prohibition was set to begin on January 2, 1971. Airing in prime time on the East Coast, the 1971 Orange Bowl thus became the last televised sporting event to carry cigarette ads, the final one (for Winston) airing at 10:54 p.m.[1] (The very last tobacco adverisement, for Virginia Slims, was shown at 11:59 p.m. during a break on The Tonight Show).[2]
This is interesting from Wiki:
In April 1970, Congress passed the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act banning the advertising of cigarettes on television and radio; in order to allow the New Year's Day football games to keep their already-sold cigarette ads, the prohibition was set to begin on January 2, 1971. Airing in prime time on the East Coast, the 1971 Orange Bowl thus became the last televised sporting event to carry cigarette ads, the final one (for Winston) airing at 10:54 p.m.[1] (The very last tobacco adverisement, for Virginia Slims, was shown at 11:59 p.m. during a break on The Tonight Show).[2]
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 4:10 am
Posted on 9/13/11 at 4:25 am to theantiquetiger
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I believe the 73 Orange Bowl is the only game LSU lost and the winner was crowned the NC.
Penn State was undefeated but wasn't the NC that year. Notre Dame won the AP and Alabama won the coaches poll (last year that the final coaches poll was released before the bowls).
Posted on 9/13/11 at 4:32 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
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Penn State was undefeated but wasn't the NC that year. Notre Dame won the AP and Alabama won the coaches poll (last year that the final coaches poll was released before the bowls).
I stand corrected. I never looked it up because I thought they said NC team on Pawn Stars, it was just Orange Bowl champions.
So it looks like just the 66 Cotton and the 71 Orange(other than our own NC's)
Posted on 9/13/11 at 5:27 am to theantiquetiger
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I never looked it up because I thought they said NC team on Pawn Stars
Might be a case where Penn State claims a national championship for that year even though no one ever awarded it to them.
On another note, it looks like there were 6 undefeated teams that year after the bowls (3 had ties - two to each other). That's crazy stuff right there.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 5:48 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
In 1970 LSU was 9-2 going into the Orange Bowl to face a 10-0-1 Nebraska.
Texas had already won the UP poll, as it was still given out before the bowl games.
The AP voted Nebraska #1 after the bowls, in which Texas and Ohio St. lost.
Texas had already won the UP poll, as it was still given out before the bowl games.
The AP voted Nebraska #1 after the bowls, in which Texas and Ohio St. lost.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 6:59 am to tigger1
LSU has NEVER lost a MNC game. They have won 3 (if you count the Ole Myth game in 1958).
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 7:00 am
Posted on 9/13/11 at 7:07 am to Ancientiger
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LSU has NEVER lost a MNC game. They have won 3 (if you count the Ole Myth game in 1958).
The 58 Tulane game was a MNC game!!!
LSU has lost aleast one game with MNC implications, the 1971 Orange Bowl!!!
LSU has onegame with MNC implications, the 66 Cotton Bowl!!!
So, LSU is 4-1 in MNC games!!!
Did you not read the thread?
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 7:11 am
Posted on 9/13/11 at 7:30 am to theantiquetiger
LSU has never lost a game where they had a chance to walk away with a national championship. IN ANY SPORT.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 7:45 am to Elleshoe
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LSU has never lost a game where they had a chance to walk away with a national championship. IN ANY SPORT.
That is not what I am saying, read the thread.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 7:59 am to theantiquetiger
The answer is won 2, lost none.
In 1958, the bowls were played after the final polls. I presume that's why you claim the Tulane game was a MNC game. Was Tulane a contender for the MNC that year?
And we weren't going to be crowned MNC for winning those bowl games in 66, 71, or 73, so you can't call those MNC games on the same level as today's BCS era championship games.
In the pre BCS era there was rarely a true 1 vs 2 bowl matchup to give us a head to head end of year showdown. Kinda the whole reason the BCS came into existence.
In 1958, the bowls were played after the final polls. I presume that's why you claim the Tulane game was a MNC game. Was Tulane a contender for the MNC that year?
And we weren't going to be crowned MNC for winning those bowl games in 66, 71, or 73, so you can't call those MNC games on the same level as today's BCS era championship games.
In the pre BCS era there was rarely a true 1 vs 2 bowl matchup to give us a head to head end of year showdown. Kinda the whole reason the BCS came into existence.
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 8:01 am
Posted on 9/13/11 at 8:14 am to pdxlsufan
Do the last three posters not know what "implications" mean?
The "MNC" has been around a lot longer than the BCS.
LSU is 4-1 in games with NC implications, 58 Tulane, 66 Cotton, 71 Orange, and the two BCS games.
Just wondering if I am missing any.
The "MNC" has been around a lot longer than the BCS.
LSU is 4-1 in games with NC implications, 58 Tulane, 66 Cotton, 71 Orange, and the two BCS games.
Just wondering if I am missing any.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 8:40 am to theantiquetiger
I know what implications means, but your thread title says MNC games, not games with MNC implications. In the middle of the OP, you do eventually say games w MNC implications. But then later you say games where winner is crowned MNC. But that wasn't technically true as LSU couldn't win those games and be crowned MNC because we won that bowl game.
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