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Politicians could force Texas to play A&M against its will
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:47 pm
August 27, 2011
Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist
The Big 12 presidents spoke Saturday on a conference call about what the departure of Texas A&M from the conference would look like and what the future of the Big 12 would look like without the Aggies.
Estimates for the Aggies' exit fees, according to Big 12 sources, are between $28 million and $30 million. But no one expects the Aggies to pay that much.
Nebraska and Colorado were supposed to pay between $15 million and $20 million. But Nebraska paid $9 million, and Colorado paid $6 million.
Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin was expected to be part of the call during the discussion about A&M's potential exit strategy from the Big 12.
But Loftin was expected to leave the call when the Big 12 presidents took up the issue of a potential replacement for the Aggies should they bolt the Big 12.
Notre Dame would top the Big 12 wish list, according to sources. BYU is also a strong candidate, sources say. But don't be surprised to hear Pittsburgh start to surface as a potential candidate for the Big 12.
Pitt is in the Big East, which has a television contract renegotiation coming up next year. The appeal to adding the Panthers to the Big 12 would be bringing some substantial notheastern television markets to the league.
Sources close to the situation continue to say Texas would not have an interest in playing Texas A&M in football if the Aggies were to bolt the Big 12 for the SEC.
But there is speculation among those in the Texas Legislature that a bill could be filed during the 2013 session that could force the two schools to keep playing each other if they were in separate conferences.
Meanwhile, multiple sources say if Texas A&M joins the SEC, there may not be a rush by that conference to add a 14th school. Sources say the SEC would seriously consider the possibility of playing the 2012 season with 13 schools.
The SEC needs a super majority of nine schools to approve the addition of a school to the conference, sources said.
Sources said they expect Texas A&M to make a move this week to submit its application for membership to the SEC. Saturday's call between the Big 12 presidents was a step in the direction of A&M clarifying what its exit strategy will be before reaching out to the SEC, sources said.
Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist
The Big 12 presidents spoke Saturday on a conference call about what the departure of Texas A&M from the conference would look like and what the future of the Big 12 would look like without the Aggies.
Estimates for the Aggies' exit fees, according to Big 12 sources, are between $28 million and $30 million. But no one expects the Aggies to pay that much.
Nebraska and Colorado were supposed to pay between $15 million and $20 million. But Nebraska paid $9 million, and Colorado paid $6 million.
Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin was expected to be part of the call during the discussion about A&M's potential exit strategy from the Big 12.
But Loftin was expected to leave the call when the Big 12 presidents took up the issue of a potential replacement for the Aggies should they bolt the Big 12.
Notre Dame would top the Big 12 wish list, according to sources. BYU is also a strong candidate, sources say. But don't be surprised to hear Pittsburgh start to surface as a potential candidate for the Big 12.
Pitt is in the Big East, which has a television contract renegotiation coming up next year. The appeal to adding the Panthers to the Big 12 would be bringing some substantial notheastern television markets to the league.
Sources close to the situation continue to say Texas would not have an interest in playing Texas A&M in football if the Aggies were to bolt the Big 12 for the SEC.
But there is speculation among those in the Texas Legislature that a bill could be filed during the 2013 session that could force the two schools to keep playing each other if they were in separate conferences.
Meanwhile, multiple sources say if Texas A&M joins the SEC, there may not be a rush by that conference to add a 14th school. Sources say the SEC would seriously consider the possibility of playing the 2012 season with 13 schools.
The SEC needs a super majority of nine schools to approve the addition of a school to the conference, sources said.
Sources said they expect Texas A&M to make a move this week to submit its application for membership to the SEC. Saturday's call between the Big 12 presidents was a step in the direction of A&M clarifying what its exit strategy will be before reaching out to the SEC, sources said.
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:51 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Does anything happen in Texas without going to committee?
I mean WTF... other states barely know who they're legislators are, much less hound them for inside football information.
I mean WTF... other states barely know who they're legislators are, much less hound them for inside football information.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:54 pm to RollTideTA
"were texas" "nobody tells us what to do!" Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:59 pm to DesignatedT
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RollTideTA
Even the people in the state legislature understand how screwy our legal system is. Meet any lawyer who does Texas law and they'll say the same thing.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:09 pm to CassiusClay
the thing they were going on and on about this morning on the radio, was that if they do end up playing every year, the irony is that it will almost assuredly be on the LHN (when it's @ DKR)
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:13 pm to Uncle Stu
Aww well the ball will be on the sips' court. We want to play them. Its up to them. "Oh no we didn't get our way! Well, well, we are never ever playing you again!"
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:25 pm to Palooza11
the local "vibe" is starting to split right down the middle, half are experiencing vaginal sand discharge and want to end the series forever, the other half want the rivalry to continue. Partially because well, they want to continue it, and partially because they can start to see that if they nix the game, it seems petty and cowardice and there's no "real" reason to end it other than just simple bitter feelings
but another thing that was brought up was the potential to inspire the Ags...."let's go out there and beat them on their own field on their own network" - could prove to be great corkboard material for A&M and backfire on UT
but another thing that was brought up was the potential to inspire the Ags...."let's go out there and beat them on their own field on their own network" - could prove to be great corkboard material for A&M and backfire on UT
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:39 pm to Uncle Stu
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Aww well the ball will be on the sips' court. We want to play them.
This makes no sense to me. All I hear from aggies is that Texas is evil and the LHN is unfair and A&M needs to get out from under the shadow of Texas to be successful.......so why keep playing Texas when every other game will most certainly be on the LHN? As usual, I just don't understand aggie.
Both schools will be better off having a clean break. A&M will make new traditions. I am looking forward to the 2 schools never playing again in the regular season.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:43 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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All I hear from aggies is that Texas is evil and the LHN is unfair and A&M needs to get out from under the shadow of Texas to be successful.......
Once again twisting words around.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:45 pm to Palooza11
Gee I also wonder if Texas A&M never mattered to UT, then why was there so much fuss about us destroying 100 year rivalries? Since when were Longhorns so passionate about the Lone Star Showdown? Again, making us look like the bad guy. Wanting to destroy 100 year rivalries, and wanting to implode a conference, thus leaving peasants like Baylor and Iowa State to drown.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:46 pm to Palooza11
No.. every other game is NOT most certainly going to be on the LHN. It will be a huge game in which ESPN/ABC/CBS will work very hard to get. If Texas says we will play you but it will be on the LHN, A&M will respectively decline... just like they have been doing.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 1:46 pm to Palooza11
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Dr Drunkenstein
That's all you think you're hearing, but none of saying that...y'all just say it for us. Believe me you're missing the point from us Aggies.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:12 pm to RollTideTA
texas state government is designed that way for a reason, and for a damn good reason - to keep (what was) the federal government as weak and as unintrusive as possible. compare it to states with opposite state constitutions and tell me which is better...
and if texas A&M ISNT just leaving to get out of texas's shadow, then why would it want to stop playing us???
and if texas A&M ISNT just leaving to get out of texas's shadow, then why would it want to stop playing us???
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:12 pm to Palooza11
quote:
Gee I also wonder if Texas A&M never mattered to UT, then why was there so much fuss about us destroying 100 year rivalries? Since when were Longhorns so passionate about the Lone Star Showdown? Again, making us look like the bad guy. Wanting to destroy 100 year rivalries, and wanting to implode a conference, thus leaving peasants like Baylor and Iowa State to drown.
Mack Brown & DeLoss are saying all of the politically correct things. Both sides are doing this.....
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No.. every other game is NOT most certainly going to be on the LHN. It will be a huge game in which ESPN/ABC/CBS will work very hard to get. If Texas says we will play you but it will be on the LHN, A&M will respectively decline... just like they have been doing.
I think the LHN is the card Texas will play if the leg forces the game on the Longhorns.
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That's all you think you're hearing, but none of saying that...y'all just say it for us. Believe me you're missing the point from us Aggies.
Stallings on Finebaum said he wanted A&M out because of the LHN - are you better connected than him?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:25 pm to el duderino III
well for 1. There is a ton of money at stake during that game/tday weekend.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:33 pm to DesignatedT
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Dr Drunkenstein
quote:
DeLoss are saying all of the politically correct things.
except when deloss called Bryne a "fricking a-hole"
But this is true, but who would expect different. As for Stallings, you said "he" so I'd infer that as an opinion. The only reason the LHN is a factor is because it doesn't allow for a complete conference network, which is a pretty selfish move. We aren't jealous of the LHN, most of us believe that even with ESPN propping the network up it will fail. The big12 became a free-for-all, that's the bottom-line. Now, the SEC is the best option, simple as that.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:39 pm to DesignatedT
quote:
well for 1. There is a ton of money at stake during that game/tday weekend.
Texas has plenty of $. Our athletics department doesn't need to take massive multi-million $ loans from a school that is so broke it had to abandon on campus toilet paper.
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We aren't jealous of the LHN, most of us believe that even with ESPN propping the network up it will fail.
Texas gets its hundreds of millions no matter what.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 2:41 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Texas gets its hundreds of millions no matter what
Hahaha no it doesn't. Read the contract. ESPN can opt out if it doesn't meet their standards, which already started yesterday
Don't get me wrong, if ESPN offered A&M 300 million, I think we might be "selfish" as well. But please understand the main reason you got this network was to keep Fox from getting the Pac16 network first, and owning CFB TV rights to almost 1/3 of the country. Since you were the Pac shepherd last year, ESPN could save alot more money by throwing cash at you. You aren't the joneses.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:01 pm to DesignatedT
quote:
"were texas" "nobody tells us what to do!"
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:12 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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This makes no sense to me. All I hear from aggies is that Texas is evil and the LHN is unfair and A&M needs to get out from under the shadow of Texas to be successful.
then you havent heard a damn thing. How dense are you that you cannot at least comprehend the words in front of your face. You're hearing what you want to hear, and not the actuality of it.
Everyone is sick and friggin tired of UT walking around on uneven ground and acting like they own the place. Other universities no longer are OK with UT blatantly taking an unequal share of the pie. They're sick of it and they're leaving for greener pastures, where the revenue sharing is equal.
That doesnt mean that within the realm of competitive sports the rivalry isnt still there. That doesnt mean that you two should stop playing. If you want to stop playing A&M then you're just a bitter old ex-girlfriend who's scared of getting hurt again.
just keep towing that UT company line, before long it'll be UT, Baylor and the rest of Conference USA with a dash of Sunbelt. Then you'll finally get what you want, a chance to dominate a bunch of 2nd tier teams without ever really having to prove any ability on the field.
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