Only way to really look is how we both play the same teams.

2003: Arizona
LSU 59-13
UO 48-10

2003: Mississippi State
LSU 41-6
UO 42-34

2004: Oregon State
LSU 22-21
UO 21-50

2005: Arizona State
LSU 35-31
UO 31-17

2006: Fresno State
LSU 38-6
UO 31-24

2006: Arizona
LSU 45-3
UO 10-37

5/6 LSU did better against the same team. The defense Oregon fans claims is going to stop us from passing has all but once allowed more ppg then the LSU defense of the same time frame.

Granted these don't mean much because there have been numerous coaching changes on both teams. However, saying that the SEC plays cupcakes and that's a reason that we get into the BCS games is not telling the whole truth. We fight in the toughest conference, and when we go against common opponents we tend to have a little better record.

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Posted by GoDucks349

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Posted on 6/2/11 at 3:43 pm to CajunFootball

quote:
Only way to really look is how we both play the same teams.

2003: Arizona
LSU 59-13
UO 48-10

2003: Mississippi State
LSU 41-6
UO 42-34

2004: Oregon State
LSU 22-21
UO 21-50

2005: Arizona State
LSU 35-31
UO 31-17

2006: Fresno State
LSU 38-6
UO 31-24

2006: Arizona
LSU 45-3
UO 10-37

5/6 LSU did better against the same team. The defense Oregon fans claims is going to stop us from passing has all but once allowed more ppg then the LSU defense of the same time frame.

I understand the concept, and it's worth looking at common opponents. One difficulty with this comparison is that 5 of those were road games for Oregon and 3 were road games for LSU. Both Oregon and LSU have very nice "Home Field Advantages". so if you throw out the two where LSU had home field and Oregon didn't it cuts it to 3-1. Still advantage LSU.

Also, I've always given LSU, Tenn and GA credit for stepping in and playing tougher OOC opponents than the other SEC teams. I mean seriously, has Florida played a OOC game where the opponent was outside the state of Florida and the opponent didn't legally use handicap parking spaces?

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Posted by goducks75

Member since Nov 2010

52 posts

Posted on 6/2/11 at 4:21 pm to CajunFootball

quote:
Only way to really look is how we both play the same teams.

2003: Arizona
LSU 59-13
UO 48-10

2003: Mississippi State
LSU 41-6
UO 42-34

2004: Oregon State
LSU 22-21
UO 21-50

2005: Arizona State
LSU 35-31
UO 31-17

2006: Fresno State
LSU 38-6
UO 31-24

2006: Arizona
LSU 45-3
UO 10-37

5/6 LSU did better against the same team. The defense Oregon fans claims is going to stop us from passing has all but once allowed more ppg then the LSU defense of the same time frame.

You missed Washington in 2009 where LSU won 31-23 and Oregon won 43-19. And honestly, even including this more recent game this argument has little relevance with the two teams today outside of pointing out that LSU has typically had the better defense (or team in general as you guys won 2 NCs between '03 and '07) this past decade, and few Oregon fans would disagree with that claim. Oregon didn't begin improving too much defensively until Chip took over. None of the players from either LSU or Oregon from 2003-2006 are playing college ball anymore (well, unless you have a recruit from the '06 class that greyshirted or went on a Mormon mission or something that I don't know about). Not only that but you guys didn't get Chavis until 2009. This is comparing apples to oranges here. Oregon has been far more aggressive defensively under Chip as opposed to Bellotti where they played a far more conservative bend-but-don't-break defense that often broke more times than it didn't. Again, apples to oranges.

Oh, and keep in mind that we had Crowton as OC in '05 and '06. You guys know all about how that goes....

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