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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:23 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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10 more wins = MVP award difference
IMO it had a lot more to do with coaching and team defense.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:25 am to Colonel Flagg
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IMO it had a lot more to do with coaching and team defense.
This times a million.
ETA: maybe I misread it though, i thought u meant for the Bulls lol.
By the way, why is Rose getting a free pass for how awful he's been in these playoffs?
He's shooting like 37%.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 12:28 am
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:26 am to Colonel Flagg
I'm not really sure what that means?
Orlando's team defense only existed b/c of Dwight. Rose doesn't change the Bull's defensive philosophy or have a huge impact.
Orlando's team defense only existed b/c of Dwight. Rose doesn't change the Bull's defensive philosophy or have a huge impact.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:26 am to UFownstSECsince1950
5b) dirk
kobe not in my top 5 is just out of bias.. objectively, he is obviously a top 5 scorer in the NBA. i just hate his little finger wag he does after damn near every fadeaway![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
kobe not in my top 5 is just out of bias.. objectively, he is obviously a top 5 scorer in the NBA. i just hate his little finger wag he does after damn near every fadeaway
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This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 12:27 am
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:28 am to BenDover
ok, so then you'd admit (unbiasedly) that Rose isn't a top5 scorer. You can't be top5 if you can't shoot with consistency.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:28 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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Orlando's team defense only existed b/c of Dwight. Rose doesn't change the Bull's defensive philosophy or have a huge impact.
Ok, this times a million lol.
It's fairly simple:
If it is a true most valuable by definition, HOward should win.
If it's simply the best player, Lebron should win.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:30 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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ok, so then you'd admit (unbiasedly) that Rose isn't a top5 scorer. You can't be top5 if you can't shoot with consistency.
it depends on how you define being a top 5 scorer. if you mean just by putting the ball in the hoop, yeah, he is. if you want efficiency while scoring the ball, he is not a top 5 scorer. some games he'll be hot and be something like 12/18 shooting, then other nights it'll take him 27-30 shots to score his points.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:31 am to shel311
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If it is a true most valuable by definition, HOward should win.
If it's simply the best player, Lebron should win.
agreed.
and like you said before, if it's the best player on the team with the best record....then it's Rose
but the "V" in MVP stands for Valuable.......
doesn't really matter though
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:33 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Lebron = MVP every year till he retires, whether he gets the award or not..
Derrick Rose was good, but without the coach and his defensive scheme, bulls would be average
Derrick Rose was good, but without the coach and his defensive scheme, bulls would be average
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:33 am to shel311
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If it is a true most valuable by definition, HOward should win.
If it's simply the best player, Lebron should win.
Agree
Paul is by far a better PG than Rose also.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 12:34 am
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:35 am to TigerMan327
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Lebron = MVP every year till he retires, whether he gets the award or not..
Slow down there, champ. Not saying he is not the best now because he is, but I hope that is just a figure of speech, so to speak because some player x will be better than 35 year old Lebron.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:44 am to Colonel Flagg
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Paul is by far a better PG than Rose also.
lol
Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:33 am to BayouBengals03
He had a more efficient year.
And you can certainly make a case that Rose is better, BUT, I'm certain of this, Rose is not good enough to play as well as Paul did against LAL for an entire series, so that's a legit point.
And you can certainly make a case that Rose is better, BUT, I'm certain of this, Rose is not good enough to play as well as Paul did against LAL for an entire series, so that's a legit point.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:48 am to shel311
Chris Paul is not by far a better point guard than Derrick Rose. There is no argument for that.
Maybe Paul should try an 82-game season on for size, and not just pick and choose what nights he wants to play hard. Showing up for 40 games =/= the best point guard in the NBA. If we are going to hold it against guys like Carmelo, then we have to hold it against Paul too.
And if Paul was the Bulls' point guard this year, they don't have near the record that Chicago finished with. So there's a legit point for you too.
Maybe Paul should try an 82-game season on for size, and not just pick and choose what nights he wants to play hard. Showing up for 40 games =/= the best point guard in the NBA. If we are going to hold it against guys like Carmelo, then we have to hold it against Paul too.
And if Paul was the Bulls' point guard this year, they don't have near the record that Chicago finished with. So there's a legit point for you too.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:52 am to BayouBengals03
Your feisty tonight, even though your Mavs won. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 3:21 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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was that a gamecock quote?
I haven't seen him recently, has he been banned?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 3:38 am to BayouBengals03
Paul is overrated
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 4:22 am
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