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re: RMD 2011 - In the Books!

Posted on 2/27/11 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/27/11 at 1:44 pm to
For those interested in submitting comprehensive rosters at the beginning of next season, I will use the following logic to rank teams. I think player success is impeccably hard to determine, but the best unbiased way to do so, IMO, is to quantify a players achievements. Let’s say we are judging a QB after the post season has concluded. IMO, the following areas would be judged: TDs/game, TDs/att, INTs/game, INTs/att, TD:INT, Pass Yds/gm, Yds/att, Completion %, Rushing TDs/gm, Rushing yds/att, Rushing yds/gm, Fumbles/gm, Sacks/att, passer efficiency, and in-season and post-season awards, both at the conference (P.O.W. per game, 1st/2nd team all-conference, MVP) and national level (P.O.W. per game, 1st/2nd team all-American, O’Brien Award).

All statistical numbers would be averaged over attempts or games to standardize the results rather than using raw figures. There would be some sort of minimum attempts for a QB to even qualify for rankings. The numbers will then be combined with the rest of the QBs who qualify in the NCAA Bowl Subdivision to determine a percentile ranking. That percentile ranking will be the QBs points in that particular category. For example, if 150 QBs qualify, the QB with the highest TDs:INT ratio will receive 1 point, the QB who ranks 35 will receive .766 points since he is “better” than 115 qualifying QBs. The maximum number of points available for a QB from his statistics would be 14. If a QB tallies 11 points, he will receive .786 points towards his overall ranking.

To quantify conference awards, P.O.W. award winning percentage will be multiplied by 10 points, 5 points will go to 2nd Team all-conference and 10 points to 1st team all conference, and 5 points to conference MVP on offense (only if applicable to all conferences). Additionally, POW award winning percentage at the national level will be multiplied by 30 points, 2nd-team all-American will be worth 15 points, 1st team worth 30 points, and the O’Brien award worth an additional 15 points. Total points possible will be 100 if a kid wins all conference and national POW awards, 1st-team all conference and all American, and wins conference MVP and the O’Brien award. 68.2 points total will be worth .682 towards a players overall ranking.

Statistical ranking will be combined with award ranking and then averaged to give a final score. Something similar will be done at every position using. Some positions will need an agreed-upon national award to be counted such as either the Lombardi award or the Nagurski trophy for defensive linemen. We will also use one prominent source for all stats, one source for an all-American team, and conference websites for conference awards. Also, something will need to be done with Army, Navy, and Notre Dame players since there are no conference awards of any kind. Perhaps their statistics number would be multiplied by 1.25 to fill the void of conference awards. No points will be awarded for a player’s NFL draft position. Also, no points will be awarded for wins/losses since it skews the draft towards the recruits of big-time programs. Wins/losses will be intertwined with the awards anyways. Finally, I would rather NOT give any credit to the Heisman award winner since it is inherently biased towards offensive players and QBs/RBs in particular, and instead I would rather just use positional national awards.

What say you?
This post was edited on 2/27/11 at 1:46 pm
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8811 posts
Posted on 2/27/11 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

slackster


If you want to go through all of that, I'm sure all of us would be greatful.

BTW.....
quote:

All statistical numbers would be averaged over attempts or games to standardize the results rather than using raw figures. There would be some sort of minimum attempts for a QB to even qualify for rankings. The numbers will then be combined with the rest of the QBs who qualify in the NCAA Bowl Subdivision to determine a percentile ranking. That percentile ranking will be the QBs points in that particular category. For example, if 150 QBs qualify, the QB with the highest TDs:INT ratio will receive 1 point, the QB who ranks 35 will receive .766 points since he is “better” than 115 qualifying QBs. The maximum number of points available for a QB from his statistics would be 14. If a QB tallies 11 points, he will receive .786 points towards his overall ranking.

To quantify conference awards, P.O.W. award winning percentage will be multiplied by 10 points, 5 points will go to 2nd Team all-conference and 10 points to 1st team all conference, and 5 points to conference MVP on offense (only if applicable to all conferences). Additionally, POW award winning percentage at the national level will be multiplied by 30 points, 2nd-team all-American will be worth 15 points, 1st team worth 30 points, and the O’Brien award worth an additional 15 points. Total points possible will be 100 if a kid wins all conference and national POW awards, 1st-team all conference and all American, and wins conference MVP and the O’Brien award. 68.2 points total will be worth .682 towards a players overall ranking.

Statistical ranking will be combined with award ranking and then averaged to give a final score. Something similar will be done at every position using. Some positions will need an agreed-upon national award to be counted such as either the Lombardi award or the Nagurski trophy for defensive linemen. We will also use one prominent source for all stats, one source for an all-American team, and conference websites for conference awards. Also, something will need to be done with Army, Navy, and Notre Dame players since there are no conference awards of any kind. Perhaps their statistics number would be multiplied by 1.25 to fill the void of conference awards. No points will be awarded for a player’s NFL draft position. Also, no points will be awarded for wins/losses since it skews the draft towards the recruits of big-time programs. Wins/losses will be intertwined with the awards anyways. Finally, I would rather NOT give any credit to the Heisman award winner since it is inherently biased towards offensive players and QBs/RBs in particular, and instead I would rather just use positional national awards.


I really like math, but frick ME MAN!!!!
Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8811 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:04 am to
I say it is just about time to page slackster and allow him to work with the pathagarium type theory on how to score these players.

quote:

For those interested in submitting comprehensive rosters at the beginning of next season, I will use the following logic to rank teams. I think player success is impeccably hard to determine, but the best unbiased way to do so, IMO, is to quantify a players achievements. Let’s say we are judging a QB after the post season has concluded. IMO, the following areas would be judged: TDs/game, TDs/att, INTs/game, INTs/att, TD:INT, Pass Yds/gm, Yds/att, Completion %, Rushing TDs/gm, Rushing yds/att, Rushing yds/gm, Fumbles/gm, Sacks/att, passer efficiency, and in-season and post-season awards, both at the conference (P.O.W. per game, 1st/2nd team all-conference, MVP) and national level (P.O.W. per game, 1st/2nd team all-American, O’Brien Award).

All statistical numbers would be averaged over attempts or games to standardize the results rather than using raw figures. There would be some sort of minimum attempts for a QB to even qualify for rankings. The numbers will then be combined with the rest of the QBs who qualify in the NCAA Bowl Subdivision to determine a percentile ranking. That percentile ranking will be the QBs points in that particular category. For example, if 150 QBs qualify, the QB with the highest TDs:INT ratio will receive 1 point, the QB who ranks 35 will receive .766 points since he is “better” than 115 qualifying QBs. The maximum number of points available for a QB from his statistics would be 14. If a QB tallies 11 points, he will receive .786 points towards his overall ranking.

To quantify conference awards, P.O.W. award winning percentage will be multiplied by 10 points, 5 points will go to 2nd Team all-conference and 10 points to 1st team all conference, and 5 points to conference MVP on offense (only if applicable to all conferences). Additionally, POW award winning percentage at the national level will be multiplied by 30 points, 2nd-team all-American will be worth 15 points, 1st team worth 30 points, and the O’Brien award worth an additional 15 points. Total points possible will be 100 if a kid wins all conference and national POW awards, 1st-team all conference and all American, and wins conference MVP and the O’Brien award. 68.2 points total will be worth .682 towards a players overall ranking.

Statistical ranking will be combined with award ranking and then averaged to give a final score. Something similar will be done at every position using. Some positions will need an agreed-upon national award to be counted such as either the Lombardi award or the Nagurski trophy for defensive linemen. We will also use one prominent source for all stats, one source for an all-American team, and conference websites for conference awards. Also, something will need to be done with Army, Navy, and Notre Dame players since there are no conference awards of any kind. Perhaps their statistics number would be multiplied by 1.25 to fill the void of conference awards. No points will be awarded for a player’s NFL draft position. Also, no points will be awarded for wins/losses since it skews the draft towards the recruits of big-time programs. Wins/losses will be intertwined with the awards anyways. Finally, I would rather NOT give any credit to the Heisman award winner since it is inherently biased towards offensive players and QBs/RBs in particular, and instead I would rather just use positional national awards.

What say you?


God damn my head hurts.
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