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re: Joe Frazier vs Mike Tyson (Who would win?)
Posted on 2/15/11 at 7:14 pm to Jamohn
Posted on 2/15/11 at 7:14 pm to Jamohn
quote:You want to blame Tyson for not having an Ali?
You're seriously trying to sell us Michael fricking Spinks as Tyson's signature win to compare him to Frazier's resume?
Had he not gone to prison, he was lined up to fight Holyfield.
But he fought some great fighters. People saying he fought nobody are fricking retarded.
Spinks was a great fighter.
quote:And you would be wrong.
I think there are at least 10 heavyweights who in their primes, would beat Tyson in his prime.
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Posted on 2/15/11 at 7:20 pm to Roaad
quote:No. But you can't ignore the fact that he didn't beat anybody of note in his career.
You want to blame Tyson for not having an Ali?
quote:People who say that those who disagree with them on message boards are retarded are usually not highly intelligent.
But he fought some great fighters. People saying he fought nobody are fricking retarded.
quote:
Spinks was a great fighter.
Ironic, considering your immediate prior statement. quote:Most experts agree with me FWIW.
I think there are at least 10 heavyweights who in their primes, would beat Tyson in his prime.
And you would be wrong.
Posted on 2/15/11 at 7:26 pm to Roaad
I think that Tyson has gone from slightly overrated to vastly underrated, although it's his fault.
People use too many cliches when talking about Mike Tyson. "If you fight back, he'll fold" or "he didn't fight anyone when he was young". Those arguments are lazy and pretty dumb. When Mike was with Cus, he was the most technicly sound boxer EVER. He wasn't just some brawler back then like he ended up being years later. He was great. I'm not saying that Cus was the greatest trainer whoever lived, and Im not saying he was the #1 reason Tyson was great, but for whatever reason, Tyson loved and respected him more than anyone that he's ever had in his life. After Cus died and when Don King came into the picture, you saw changes in Tyson's attitude and eventually in the ring. He lost his discipline.
Still, for those years that he was focused on fighting he was great, maybe the greatest ever. I know it's not the poetic thing to say, but it's true. No one was going to stop him during those years.
People use too many cliches when talking about Mike Tyson. "If you fight back, he'll fold" or "he didn't fight anyone when he was young". Those arguments are lazy and pretty dumb. When Mike was with Cus, he was the most technicly sound boxer EVER. He wasn't just some brawler back then like he ended up being years later. He was great. I'm not saying that Cus was the greatest trainer whoever lived, and Im not saying he was the #1 reason Tyson was great, but for whatever reason, Tyson loved and respected him more than anyone that he's ever had in his life. After Cus died and when Don King came into the picture, you saw changes in Tyson's attitude and eventually in the ring. He lost his discipline.
Still, for those years that he was focused on fighting he was great, maybe the greatest ever. I know it's not the poetic thing to say, but it's true. No one was going to stop him during those years.
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