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re: Chris Jackson...I was blessed to see him play...
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:17 pm to LSU CRAZY
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:17 pm to LSU CRAZY
I met him as a kid and sat on the bench for two games (@ Miss State and vs. UNLV). 1989 was a special year that I can practically recall every bit of.
LSU started out 1-2 after beating Marist and then losing to Oral Roberts and Tech, before barely beating McNeese. Over the holidays, LSU showed up and won a tourney in Hawaii. Then, the night everyone discovered Jackson - an unusual early SEC game in December vs. Florida. He had dropped 48 against Tech, but 53 on ESPN was unavoidable to see by many. Jackson basically became an overnight sensation. He was a highlight in almost every game.
Illinois showed up with Gill, Anderson, Battle, Liberty, Bardo and co. and beat us by 27, but Kendall Gill said after the game that he played against a guard as good as Michael Jordan.
The high point started after a loss to Tennessee. LSU went on to beat Bama, Auburn, Kentucky, Vandy (on a lst second CJ 3), and then a come from behind win at UGA To claim first place in the SEC. I do not think many realize how big of a feat this was. Even though we ended up 4th in the SEC and lost our final 4 games, the Tigers being in first place - in a good league - was unimaginable. They started no one taller than 6 foot 7 and went about 7 deep off the bench. LSU beat Georgetown at the dome and snuck into the top 25 - almost as unimaginable as winning the SEC.
Eventually, defenses just realized that double-teaming CJ every second of the game was the only way. Sometimes Blanton would pick up the slack. Sometimes Simms would. When nothing went right and 3's weren't falling and LSU's lack of height caught up with them, the games went BAD. Blowout losses at Vandy, at State, and at Bama at the end of the year and then a close loss at home to revenge-minded Florida cost LSU first place. The final high point was a one point victory over UNLV on CBS. That was win #20. LSU lost the last regular season game in Oxford in double OT - CJ hitting for a career high 55 and Ole Miss's Gerald Glass going for 51. The game was nowhere near a tv network, but just listening to Hawthorne on a radio station that could only be picked up at night made the game come to life...the pictures of 2 young men pouring in a combined 106 points was just amazing.
My family and I drove to Knoxville for the '89 SEC tourney and that might have been dumb to begin with. LSU was playing UT in the first round...early Friday game. The two split the regular season series and the rubber game was all UT. It was simply CJ versus 5. It was sickening to see Vol forward Mark Griffith run down the court with this hands up after each 3 he made. As bad as center Chris Roth was, he was still about 7 feet tall and we had no one worthwhile to guard him. Then, Lyle Mouton trying to cover Dyron Nix was just as awful to watch. 20-11 and then we got into the NCAAt, only to become one of all SEC qualifiers to lose in round one. UTEP treated us poorly in round one. CJ hit for an ugly 31 points in a late, late Friday night game in Tuscon, AZ.
It was a great year. CJ was a phenom. As special as he was in '90, too...it wasn't the same type as it was in '89. Thanks for letting me share. I could go on and on and on about the season that I felt so close to.
LSU started out 1-2 after beating Marist and then losing to Oral Roberts and Tech, before barely beating McNeese. Over the holidays, LSU showed up and won a tourney in Hawaii. Then, the night everyone discovered Jackson - an unusual early SEC game in December vs. Florida. He had dropped 48 against Tech, but 53 on ESPN was unavoidable to see by many. Jackson basically became an overnight sensation. He was a highlight in almost every game.
Illinois showed up with Gill, Anderson, Battle, Liberty, Bardo and co. and beat us by 27, but Kendall Gill said after the game that he played against a guard as good as Michael Jordan.
The high point started after a loss to Tennessee. LSU went on to beat Bama, Auburn, Kentucky, Vandy (on a lst second CJ 3), and then a come from behind win at UGA To claim first place in the SEC. I do not think many realize how big of a feat this was. Even though we ended up 4th in the SEC and lost our final 4 games, the Tigers being in first place - in a good league - was unimaginable. They started no one taller than 6 foot 7 and went about 7 deep off the bench. LSU beat Georgetown at the dome and snuck into the top 25 - almost as unimaginable as winning the SEC.
Eventually, defenses just realized that double-teaming CJ every second of the game was the only way. Sometimes Blanton would pick up the slack. Sometimes Simms would. When nothing went right and 3's weren't falling and LSU's lack of height caught up with them, the games went BAD. Blowout losses at Vandy, at State, and at Bama at the end of the year and then a close loss at home to revenge-minded Florida cost LSU first place. The final high point was a one point victory over UNLV on CBS. That was win #20. LSU lost the last regular season game in Oxford in double OT - CJ hitting for a career high 55 and Ole Miss's Gerald Glass going for 51. The game was nowhere near a tv network, but just listening to Hawthorne on a radio station that could only be picked up at night made the game come to life...the pictures of 2 young men pouring in a combined 106 points was just amazing.
My family and I drove to Knoxville for the '89 SEC tourney and that might have been dumb to begin with. LSU was playing UT in the first round...early Friday game. The two split the regular season series and the rubber game was all UT. It was simply CJ versus 5. It was sickening to see Vol forward Mark Griffith run down the court with this hands up after each 3 he made. As bad as center Chris Roth was, he was still about 7 feet tall and we had no one worthwhile to guard him. Then, Lyle Mouton trying to cover Dyron Nix was just as awful to watch. 20-11 and then we got into the NCAAt, only to become one of all SEC qualifiers to lose in round one. UTEP treated us poorly in round one. CJ hit for an ugly 31 points in a late, late Friday night game in Tuscon, AZ.
It was a great year. CJ was a phenom. As special as he was in '90, too...it wasn't the same type as it was in '89. Thanks for letting me share. I could go on and on and on about the season that I felt so close to.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:35 pm to Sammy Joe
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Even after Shaq and Stanley Roberts arrived, CJ was the star.
CJ, to put it quite simply, was one of the best college players to ever set forth on a basketball court. As a freshman, and this has been discussed, may have been the greatest freshman basketball player ever...that's right- he was that good!
We had one legend in Pistol Pete, and another in Chris Jackson. It was 20 years between the two of them, and now over 20 years since CJ, we are due another great one, but I don't think anyone can top what Pistol Pete & CJ could do on the court...
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:43 pm to LSU CRAZY
I was in the Bengal Brass for three seasons and it was awesome back then. We got to travel with the team in the tournament.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:52 pm to LSU CRAZY
I met Chris and Jose Vargas in Cortana mall when they were on the team--- very nice guys!
Posted on 1/19/11 at 8:52 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
LSU went on to beat Bama, Auburn, Kentucky, Vandy (on a lst second CJ 3),
That 3 pt. shot was one of the most incredible plays in college baskeball history. Now I am going by memory from over 20 years ago, but if I recall correctly, there was only about 3 seconds or less left in the game, LSU had possession, were trying to throw the ball in bounds, and Vandy had a foul to give. Everyone, especially Vandy, knew the ball was going to Chris, and it was, so he was quickly fouled. So, LSU takes the ball out again, and yes, we all know it is going to Chris again in the corner to throw up a three- well, no surprise there, it did, and he swished an incredible three from the corner to win it. Similar to Calvin Murphy, CJ had one of the quickest releases you ever saw- you knew the shot was coming, but you couldn't stop him- What a legend!
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:46 pm to CaliforniaTiger
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I met Chris and Jose Vargas in Cortana mall when they were on the team--- very nice guys!
They didn't play om the same team. Ever.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:49 pm to Tigergreg
Chris had:
55 vs. Ole Miss 3/89
53 vs. Florida 12/88
50 vs. Texas 1/90
48 vs. LA Tech 12/88
44 vs. UNLV 1/90
41 vs. Vandy 1/90
He had a multitude (at least 20 games) of scoring 30 points or more. Unfortunately, he ended his career scoring 13 and 13 back to back in his final two games. CJ did NOT show up in the '90 NCAAt.
55 vs. Ole Miss 3/89
53 vs. Florida 12/88
50 vs. Texas 1/90
48 vs. LA Tech 12/88
44 vs. UNLV 1/90
41 vs. Vandy 1/90
He had a multitude (at least 20 games) of scoring 30 points or more. Unfortunately, he ended his career scoring 13 and 13 back to back in his final two games. CJ did NOT show up in the '90 NCAAt.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:08 am to LSU CRAZY
My dad bought season tickets during this time. LSU basketball was amazing back in the day.
I started going to Dale Brown's Bball camp the summer of my sophomore year in high school and met Shaq right before he started his freshman year in school. Great memories.
I started going to Dale Brown's Bball camp the summer of my sophomore year in high school and met Shaq right before he started his freshman year in school. Great memories.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 11:48 am to PiscesTiger
Pisces Tiger, yes they did play together (chris and jose vargas) in 1988 ---look it up---anyway, I have autographs of them on the same piece of paper.
{They didn't play om the same team. Ever}
{They didn't play om the same team. Ever}
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:04 pm to CaliforniaTiger
Actually, there is conflicting info, some have Chris and Jose playing in 1988 and one site has Jose ending 1987....anyway doesn't matter---they were together the day I met them!
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:36 pm to CaliforniaTiger
Chris Jackson was a decent punter, but he was no Donnie Jones, I don't see what all the fuss is about
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:48 pm to EST
quote:
Look at all those full seats in the PMAC
I was there for some of those games. Back then, no tickets needed. You walked up and showed your student I.D. and got in. General admission for the student section. Same for football. I remember many games getting there close to tip and having to sit in the top level. I've been back many times since I graduated and I've never had to sit up there again.
I did not know Chris Jackson personally, but my mother met him several times and knew a friend of his on the team. She said that Chris came from a home with a dirt floor (or maybe wholes in the floor), and that his family had less than nothing. At the time, there were also concerns about his knees, which was something they often mentioned when they talked about him coming out early.
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:13 pm to FanInLA
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I was at CHS BR for those years and my Dad and I went to almost every home game. The Deaf Dome was amazing. The Loyola Marymount game in 89 was really special.
Agreed, that and the UNLV game of that year were the best games in tiger basketball history.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:52 pm to redstick13
Didn't Dale Brown take a shot at one of the Tennessee players?
The Tennessee player pushed Mike the Tiger. Mike the Tiger(Mark Jeffers) was on the cover of SI.
The Tennessee player pushed Mike the Tiger. Mike the Tiger(Mark Jeffers) was on the cover of SI.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:09 pm to Jolly4LSU
It wasn't Dale Brown it was Mike the Tiger.
Mark Jeffers' parents gave me tickets to the UNLV. My favorite LSU basketball game.
Mark Jeffers' parents gave me tickets to the UNLV. My favorite LSU basketball game.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 2:18 pm to Pepe Lepew
Pistol Pete did not shoot over 90% from the foul line for his career at LSU.
His free throw percentages were:
Fr 83%
Soph 81%
Jr 75%
Sr 78%
But he was the greatest ball handler and passer this game has ever seen. And as being named one of the NBA's 50 greatest players, he is the only one of those 50 who would have been even better in today's modern game. He was literally 40 years ahead of his time. Also, if there had been a 3 pt shot during his career at LSU, his scoring average would have been an astonding 57 pts per game !!
His free throw percentages were:
Fr 83%
Soph 81%
Jr 75%
Sr 78%
But he was the greatest ball handler and passer this game has ever seen. And as being named one of the NBA's 50 greatest players, he is the only one of those 50 who would have been even better in today's modern game. He was literally 40 years ahead of his time. Also, if there had been a 3 pt shot during his career at LSU, his scoring average would have been an astonding 57 pts per game !!
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 1/20/11 at 5:06 pm to CaliforniaTiger
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Actually, there is conflicting info, some have Chris and Jose playing in 1988 and one site has Jose ending 1987....anyway doesn't matter---they were together the day I met them!
CJ's first game was in Nov of '88. Jose's last game was in March of '88. I don't doubt you saw them together, but they didn't play for the same team ever. I assure you.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 9:05 am to LSU CRAZY
best college basketball player i ever personally saw in person. no doubt.
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