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re: .380 vs 9mm

Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:45 pm to
Fwiw:

Velocity
.380 - 950fps (100 grain)
9mm - 1150fps (115 grain)

Energy
.380 - 200 ft-lbs
9mm - 320 ft-lbs


Pretty big difference.

Posted by dawgfan1979
Red hills of Jawja
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

The Ruger LCP is not rated for +p ammunition. I would really advise against loading +p in the LCP.


This is odd, My Kel-tec says it is rated for +p ammo. I figured the Ruger would be as well
Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:11 pm to
.380 is a 9mm short
Posted by keldar33b
richmond va
Member since Sep 2005
1677 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:26 pm to
9mm in an mp5 sd hits about as hard as a .380. so yeah, it will do the job, just don't go for the padded areas, gonna have to head shot. during winter it could get you killed, even with +p HP because of premature projectile fracturing.
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:44 pm to
The 380 is typically a much smaller grain bullet (90 vs 115) with about half of the energy. The speed is not much different and the accuraccy seems to suffer on the 380, mainly because of the shorter barrels...at least I think so. It's what you give up for being able to put it in the front or back pocket. I have the Taurus TCP and do like it, primarily for concealment in and out of the car
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:51 pm to
Also, I don't shoot +p out of the TCP, even though most (if not all new Taurus') will run it. I feel it would compromise reacquisition of the target in such a small gun with my big hands.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58701 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:54 pm to
We looked at several different 9mm but none seemed to fit her hands well, her favorite was the sig p238... If thats what it takes to get her started, its worth it... Great looking gun and it even feels good in my big hands.



Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76656 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:55 pm to
You CANNOT go wrong with a Sig p238.

I love Sigs. Your wife has good taste.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76656 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 9:59 pm to
The LCP is going to be smaller and thinner and weigh a little less tho. If she is going to carrying it could be a factor.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:00 pm to
She has good taste and doesnt even know it

We looked long and hard at the LCP's and it just doesnt compare to the sig, felt like a toy gun compared to it. I'd rather pay a coupe hundred more and get something that'll last a long time.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Covington
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:03 pm to
How much is that sig?
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 10:04 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76656 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:04 pm to
Ruger has a VERY good track record and great customer service.

It may feel like a toy gun because it is made of glass filled nylon and a steel slide. It is meant to be light. If your wife wants a gun that she won't really know it's there in her purse, it would be an excellent option. It however isn't the easiest gun to shoot because of how small and light it is. Which might not be the best choice for her. The LCP is about half the weight of the p238, just sayin.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:04 pm to
$639 at Lafayette shooters. They have one in the case that a customer returned, never fired, for $599.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76656 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:05 pm to
You can find a p238 for ~ $475-$500.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58701 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

The LCP is about half the weight of the p238, just sayin.

You're right, it is very light, almost too light. We lined up 6 or 7 compact 9mm and a few 380's and the sig was her favorite by far.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58701 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

You can find a p238 for ~ $475-$500.

Where???
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76656 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Covington
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Posted by Uncle JackD
quote:
You can find a p238 for ~ $475-$500.
Where???




No joke, where for 500?
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58701 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:10 pm to
I'll check around n see, I think she has her heart set on that rosewood grip.
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