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re: Origins of Apathy: LSU Has Not Won a Big Game in Three Years
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:00 pm to The312
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:00 pm to The312
What about Florida 2010?
I think you are picking and choosing what is a big game and what is not.
2008 Auburn ended up sucking, but at the time was a "big game."
I think you walk a fine line of trying to say this game is big and this game isn't.
One win or one loss for a team can drastically change a season. I think Texas is as bad as their record says (certainly not bad enough to lose to Iowa State and Baylor), but after losing to OU, their season spiraled out of control.
Whereas winning a big game can give you the confidence to play above your capabilities and win games you shouldn't.
Yes, it is frustrating that we didn't beat Alabama last year (just like no one else did). Nor Florida (just like no else but Bama did). But at what point do you concede that sometimes the teams we play are just really damn good and hard to beat? It's not like LSU is the only team losing to these teams...
And the Ole Miss games, yeah, frustrating. But a case could definitely be made that the past two years they were simply better than us.
ETA: Let's say we beat Bama this weekend. Then Bama loses to MSU in a let down and Auburn at the end of the season. Then you will term that not a "big" win, even though by all accounts right now it is big.
I think you are picking and choosing what is a big game and what is not.
2008 Auburn ended up sucking, but at the time was a "big game."
I think you walk a fine line of trying to say this game is big and this game isn't.
One win or one loss for a team can drastically change a season. I think Texas is as bad as their record says (certainly not bad enough to lose to Iowa State and Baylor), but after losing to OU, their season spiraled out of control.
Whereas winning a big game can give you the confidence to play above your capabilities and win games you shouldn't.
Yes, it is frustrating that we didn't beat Alabama last year (just like no one else did). Nor Florida (just like no else but Bama did). But at what point do you concede that sometimes the teams we play are just really damn good and hard to beat? It's not like LSU is the only team losing to these teams...
And the Ole Miss games, yeah, frustrating. But a case could definitely be made that the past two years they were simply better than us.
ETA: Let's say we beat Bama this weekend. Then Bama loses to MSU in a let down and Auburn at the end of the season. Then you will term that not a "big" win, even though by all accounts right now it is big.
This post was edited on 11/2/10 at 5:03 pm
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:04 pm to OBUDan
quote:they were an overtime away from 4 losses already
What about Florida 2010?
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:04 pm to OBUDan
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And the Ole Miss games, yeah, frustrating. But a case could definitely be made that the past two years they were simply better than us.
A better case would be that LSU needed to redefine their goals for the season once the SEC was out of reach. What's your motivation when at best you're playing for a "more premiere" bowl? It's been noticeable in both 2008 and 2009, and could very well happen again this year should we *cough* let this game slip by us.
Nobody ever understands how huge psychological and motivational factors are in athletics. It's always a case of the bigger and faster guy dominating.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:35 pm to OBUDan
I agree with the OP. But the fans have held on till just recently. LSU fans were UP for the Auburn game this year. They were pumped! But it's when UNBELIEVABLY/INSANELY Miles stubbornly started Jefferson again and refused to really play Lee again (only 1 series in the first half).............THAT was the nail in the coffin which began the real apathy. The fans are just worn out with Miles continually starting Jefferson and still favoring him over Lee when it's obvious to everyone, including the overwhelming statistics which support Lee, that your best chance at victory is with Lee. Watching Jefferson throw that first series interception again just cut the gas line and deflated all enthusiasm. And then to put Jefferson right back in after that interception, and to continue putting him back in till the end of the first half.............well - you knew in the pit of your LSU gut - that you were witnessing a stark raving mad lunatic of a coach. Miles had been doing and making the same crazy decisions by continually putting Jefferson in for too many prior games, series, etc. When he kept playing Jefferson, at some point in that first half, you had to just let go. Your logical brain and reason forced a sort of surgical disconnect onto and over your LSU emotions and spirit. Miles has lost this fan base primarily over his stubborness toward Jordan Jefferson. His big 10 Michigan style conservative football is another leading reason. The waste of top key player talent is just too frustrating to endure. Eventually you give up. Even hope is lost. Miles is bull-headed and I believe has made decisions specifically in spite of fan wishes in an attempt to proove himself right. It was'nt just the entire LSU fanbase that clearly saw who the better quarterback was, it was the sports writers, sports announcers and entire national audience that saw which quarterback came in to spark the team and win games. Lee really did'nt get a chance in the Auburn game. We'll never know what might have occurred if Lee had started and played the vast majority of the game.
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