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re: Why You Can't "Stack the Box" vs. Auburn (with graphics/pics)
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:43 pm to Doc Fenton
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:43 pm to Doc Fenton
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Give it up. This defense of the nickel D against that offensive setup is ridiculous. You can't allow a QB to sit there whistling all day before deciding what lane he wants to run through.
Right, you can't.
But it had VERY LITTLE to do with the scheme.. and everything to do with the failure of our front 4 to generate any sort of a push. We got dominated up front, plain and simple.
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He never completed a single pass downfield on LSU all day.
We didn't let him.
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If you bring one man off the edge, he's not a threat to automatically be able to find out which of his 4 receivers to throw to.
He's done it on multiple ocassions this season.
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Auburn ran for more against LSU at a higher yards per carry average than what they could do against no other SEC team. The coaches messed up.
And to only think if the coaches were the ones out there missing tackles... how much more blame could we give them?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:47 pm to OBUDan
my only complaint was that we shoulkdhave walked that deep safety upto box until we got beat one on one on the outside
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:48 pm to OBUDan
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We didn't let him.
Which was stupid. You're acting like Auburn completing 2 or 3 deep passes against LSU would have been the end of the world. You are basically saying that giving up 440 rushing yards is okay because you like to play scared because you're afraid of the deep pass.
This despite everybody having known from the start that rushing defense was LSU's weakness, and that we probably have the best passing defense in the whole country. Sheesh.
If you at least make Newton throw deep under pressure, then at least he has pressure on him to make a big play, and can't just have a leisurely time eating up 8 and 9 yards a run. And, guess what, in between those 2 or 3 bombs that he might hit, LSU might actually make him screw up and throw an INT.
Auburn does not have a great passing game. On a good day they complete maybe 12 of them.
LSU knew Auburn's strength was against the defense's biggest deficiency, and they did NOTHING--nothing at all--to compensate for it. It's indefensible.
And no team in the country is going to stop Auburn with this scheme that you are defending. Nobody. You would get the same result against anybody else. A 7-on-6 running setup with Newton at QB and only 2 LB's trying to cover the running game from sideline-to-sideline is going to blow up in your face no matter who you are. It's plain incompetent.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:48 pm to OBUDan
Learn football, they use misdirection (fake handoff) to hold the backers then pull a guard making it 4 to block 3 on that side.
Or he follows the backs lead and takes a path thats open cause then it is 6 on 6.
ALl we had to do was walk up a safety of change him out to an extra backer and auburn would have been forced to try to consistantly throw.
Or he follows the backs lead and takes a path thats open cause then it is 6 on 6.
ALl we had to do was walk up a safety of change him out to an extra backer and auburn would have been forced to try to consistantly throw.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:50 pm to OBUDan
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the ones out there missing tackles
And this is the last resort of the incompetent coach. "They just missed tackles." As if that doesn't happen to any defense against great runners when the runners have momentum and plenty of open space. Get real.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 3:01 pm to OBUDan
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and everything to do with the failure of our front 4 to generate any sort of a push.
hard to generate a push when you're told to play contain pretty much all game
Posted on 10/26/10 at 5:16 pm to OBUDan
OBU...I appreciate your efforts.
But you will have folks that think you can have 8 in the box and just leave folks uncovered.
The thought that you can just bring the house on the most athletic 6 foot 6 inch QB to ever play the game, and he just will not find them is kind of silly.
I also agree with your assessment that Sabans 7 will stack up pretty good. I actually wanted to spell Nevis for someone like Davenport for that reason, he probably does not penetrate and is big enough to eat up space.....him and Brockers for a couple of series to see what we could do.
Silly, but hell I was grasping at straws.
But you will have folks that think you can have 8 in the box and just leave folks uncovered.
The thought that you can just bring the house on the most athletic 6 foot 6 inch QB to ever play the game, and he just will not find them is kind of silly.
I also agree with your assessment that Sabans 7 will stack up pretty good. I actually wanted to spell Nevis for someone like Davenport for that reason, he probably does not penetrate and is big enough to eat up space.....him and Brockers for a couple of series to see what we could do.
Silly, but hell I was grasping at straws.
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