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My take on booing...
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:00 am
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:00 am
Booing is an emotional response to disappointment. I would venture to say that 99.99 percent of us have felt the urge to boo our team/the coaches recently. But please guys, let's make a decision to stop now.
Why? Miles knows how we feel, any further booing will not motivate him one way or the other. He (like all of us) will be held responsible for his success or failure. Secondly, the booing is going to have a detrimental effect on this team. One thing I know about this team, there's not a quitter on it. These guys are fighters, but at some point the booing will begin to discourage them or cause dissent. Third, it's got to affect the way recruits/parents feel about this program and school (don't think other SEC coaches won't use this against us in recruiting). Fourth, we look like assholes to the rest of the country.
I'm sure there are other good reasons not to boo.
There are reasons to be critical about our teams performance on offense. Show your knowledge and be constructively critical. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Let's let this team know that we are fighters, too.
Stay positive my friends!
Why? Miles knows how we feel, any further booing will not motivate him one way or the other. He (like all of us) will be held responsible for his success or failure. Secondly, the booing is going to have a detrimental effect on this team. One thing I know about this team, there's not a quitter on it. These guys are fighters, but at some point the booing will begin to discourage them or cause dissent. Third, it's got to affect the way recruits/parents feel about this program and school (don't think other SEC coaches won't use this against us in recruiting). Fourth, we look like assholes to the rest of the country.
I'm sure there are other good reasons not to boo.
There are reasons to be critical about our teams performance on offense. Show your knowledge and be constructively critical. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Let's let this team know that we are fighters, too.
Stay positive my friends!
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Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:07 am to Tigerinthewoods
Question, how can the fans be constructively critical? None of us are coaches and have no say in how Les Miles and Gary Crowton run the plays. Also, we have every right to boo. We pay the money to put the damn lights on on the field much less the football team. Now I'm sure they try hard and all that, but trying hard don't cut it at some point. We need to see improvement. And right now our quarterback isn't improving, he's actually getting worse. Along with the coaching decisions. So yes, if they aren't doing anything good, you can boo.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:12 am to Lsuman122
Boo a college kid, awesome
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:22 am to Tigerinthewoods
quote:Silence is an emotional response to disappointment. Tears are an emotional response to disappointment . Booing is an unnecessary aggressive behavior in response to a negative emotion.
Booing is an emotional response to disappointment
Booing is pathetic. End of discussion.
This post was edited on 10/2/10 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:23 am to Tigerinthewoods
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My take on booing...
finally. now we can close the case.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:25 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
I'm getting so excited. I get to boo Jefferson so soon!
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:25 am to Lsuman122
Lsuman, I agree with every you just said. I even agree with the booing, it had its place and made a point. But to keep lashing out emotionally at our disappointment is not going to have the effect that we would like it to have. If you want to be constructively critical, then point out to your fellow fans what you think needs to be done specifically and keep making your point. Encourage them to do the same. Call into Miles radio show and make a critical point to him. Be concise but polite. Email Miles/athletic dept. a polite critique as well. These polite but determined rebukes will not go unnoted.Cheer the offense/player when something is successful, but refrain from booing when they fail (no matter the reason).
We all want this program to be successful, but incessant booing is probably not the best way to help it as fans.
We all want this program to be successful, but incessant booing is probably not the best way to help it as fans.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:26 am to Lsuman122
Pretty ridiculous to boo in the first place. If these guys were pros and were paid to do what they do, then I'd say go ahead and boo. And don't start that garbage "it's the coaches we are booing" shite. There were several threads made about Jefferson's suckage, and multiple threads made to laugh at the "3 worst QB's in the SEC" comment.
Is the offense out of control bad? Absolutely. That doesn't mean booing them is the answer. Those players can't tell who you are booing anyway even if there was truth to the "booing the coaches" argument.
How would you take it if someone constantly walked around criticizing you, and it eventually made it to the national level that you seem to be the most worthless piece of shite the world has ever seen? For most of these guys, football is their one and only passion, and they give their all every single second they are on the field. They have as much pride in their school/state as any one of us do, and they should be treated as such.
Angry at the coaches?? Let the AD know. He gets enough of those dirty emails he may change his tune. But don't risk the morale of the team, and consequently the rest of the season, by booing at a game where whether you intend it that way or not it seems like you are booing the players.
Other than that, Geaux Tigers! Let's support our guys today and kick some Dreamsicle arse!
Is the offense out of control bad? Absolutely. That doesn't mean booing them is the answer. Those players can't tell who you are booing anyway even if there was truth to the "booing the coaches" argument.
How would you take it if someone constantly walked around criticizing you, and it eventually made it to the national level that you seem to be the most worthless piece of shite the world has ever seen? For most of these guys, football is their one and only passion, and they give their all every single second they are on the field. They have as much pride in their school/state as any one of us do, and they should be treated as such.
Angry at the coaches?? Let the AD know. He gets enough of those dirty emails he may change his tune. But don't risk the morale of the team, and consequently the rest of the season, by booing at a game where whether you intend it that way or not it seems like you are booing the players.
Other than that, Geaux Tigers! Let's support our guys today and kick some Dreamsicle arse!
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:28 am to Lsuman122
Please tell me one positive thing about booing your college team. Reading all the reason given for booing it all comes down to me, me, me I have the right to boo the team and coach I paid for my ticket so all is well. That's just a bunch of BS. There are consequences for one's actions and when you boo your team and this is a team sport, nothing good can come of it.
Lsuman122 you said that the team isn't doing ANYTHING GOOD, then how in hell are we 4 and 0. We damn well are doing a lot of things good or we wouldn't be 4 and 0.
I was a freshman at LSU in 1950 so i've seen a lot of football in those past years. We have never had it so good as we have the last 8 to 10 years and we should be proud of what our program has accomplished. The present and future look pretty darn good to me.
Let's make it 5 and 0 today and keep the booing to ourselves.
Lsuman122 you said that the team isn't doing ANYTHING GOOD, then how in hell are we 4 and 0. We damn well are doing a lot of things good or we wouldn't be 4 and 0.
I was a freshman at LSU in 1950 so i've seen a lot of football in those past years. We have never had it so good as we have the last 8 to 10 years and we should be proud of what our program has accomplished. The present and future look pretty darn good to me.
Let's make it 5 and 0 today and keep the booing to ourselves.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:28 am to DByrd2
Like I said, fans pay their money to watch their team. Half a** performances won't get you anywhere especially when you are competing on the level of the SEC.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:32 am to Guava Jelly
Guava - booing does have a time and a place. Incessant and repeated booing are a sure sign of immaturity and an inability to get beyond your emotions and do something that has a more positive effect.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:33 am to Jag225
I like how people act like they are the only ones who never sucked at anything and needed support. Frick you and your mindset. You are selfish and useless as a person. I've seen better heads on lettuce. Don't act like you've never half-assed anything.
And for that matter, these kids aren't half-assing anything. Even if they were only half-assing it, it would be more than you could do on any given day.
And for that matter, these kids aren't half-assing anything. Even if they were only half-assing it, it would be more than you could do on any given day.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:36 am to DByrd2
Yep, and when I half a** do something, I don't do it in public in front of 90,000 people or more. If you dont have it, you dont have it. Put somebody else in who do.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:41 am to Tigerinthewoods
Boo and be a probable jack arse or don't boo and be a pious, sanctimonious tard who condemns those that do boo, i don't care...just STFU already.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:46 am to Jag225
1). When do you fricking have a chance to do anything in front of 90,00 people that are all focused on you?
2). You couldn't handle that anyway.
Just because someone doesn't do what you think they should doesn't make THEM an idiot. Especially when they make more money than you on a large scale. It makes YOU one. And if you are talking about JJ, how do you figure that he is half-assing his effort on the field? I didn't realize I was talking to a fricking expert. You are a coward.
2). You couldn't handle that anyway.
Just because someone doesn't do what you think they should doesn't make THEM an idiot. Especially when they make more money than you on a large scale. It makes YOU one. And if you are talking about JJ, how do you figure that he is half-assing his effort on the field? I didn't realize I was talking to a fricking expert. You are a coward.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:46 am to Tigerinthewoods
quote:Not in college football. THese people are doing something the likes of 99% of the people in the stands have no business even dreaming about. Booing them is a direct reflection of a failed ability to recognize this. Further any argument in favor of booing any player/coach that you "support" is ludicrous simply for the fact that you are there to SUPPORT the team...not to break them down when they make a mistake or aren't doing well. They KNOW full well without losers spitting in it their faces.
booing does have a time and a place.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 10:49 am to Jag225
Jag, you've made a couple of reasonable and specific points. Right or wrong, your comments are far better then just booing. Booing is a scattershot way of expressing discontent, everyone gets schrapneled.
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:05 am to Guava Jelly
Guava - I think what people were saying with the booing was "This offensive performance is unacceptable, we are sure that we are better than this. Do something different, this is not working!" The fact that people spend money and time on LSU football gives them at least a right to express an opinion. Not to mention the deep passion we all feel about our team and the game. A boo makes a strong point to everyone. But move on to better, more effective ways of expressing yourself.
If you have kids, then you know that you sometimes have to express your disappointment with their performance (esp. repeated behavior) by raising your voice and letting them know it wasn't acceptable. But you move on from "That's unacceptable crap" to "This is why you failed, try this next time."
If you have kids, then you know that you sometimes have to express your disappointment with their performance (esp. repeated behavior) by raising your voice and letting them know it wasn't acceptable. But you move on from "That's unacceptable crap" to "This is why you failed, try this next time."
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:15 am to Tigerinthewoods
quote:Regardless of the point you are trying to express, the fact is that booing will in no way breed a positive response from players or coaches. Not good comes from it.
I think what people were saying with the booing was "This offensive performance is unacceptable, we are sure that we are better than this. Do something different, this is not working!"
quote:A better way to express your disapproval is to STOP spending money. If you are unhappy with a product why would you continue buying it? This is in the same mold as going to a restaurant every week and telling them the food sucks after you eat.
The fact that people spend money and time on LSU football gives them at least a right to express an opinion. Not to mention the deep passion we all feel about our team and the game.
quote:So it is the fans responsibility to discipline players/ coaches? How very pompous.
If you have kids, then you know that you sometimes have to express your disappointment with their performance (esp. repeated behavior) by raising your voice and letting them know it wasn't acceptable. But you move on from "That's unacceptable crap" to "This is why you failed, try this next time."
Posted on 10/2/10 at 11:38 am to Guava Jelly
Guava- I think that booing can have a postive effect on a player/coach. While it is negative it can motivate either to perform better. Incessant, continuous booing does have the opposite effect, I agree.
To stop spending money on LSU football should be a very last restort to effecting change. Just as with your restaurant example, it is only fair to let someone know in no uncertain terms ("the food sucks") that you are unhappy with the product before you stop supporting them with your money/patronage.
It is not the fans responsibility to discipline the players. That falls on the coaches. The fans, however, do discipline the coaches and have every right to do so. We do pay their salaries. If we are not happy with substandard coaching, we can have a serious effect on their employment.
All this being said, Guava, I never have and never will boo my team. I just want to be fair to those who have on occasion done so. For those hard-headed booers that know no other way, well, good luck to them in life.
To stop spending money on LSU football should be a very last restort to effecting change. Just as with your restaurant example, it is only fair to let someone know in no uncertain terms ("the food sucks") that you are unhappy with the product before you stop supporting them with your money/patronage.
It is not the fans responsibility to discipline the players. That falls on the coaches. The fans, however, do discipline the coaches and have every right to do so. We do pay their salaries. If we are not happy with substandard coaching, we can have a serious effect on their employment.
All this being said, Guava, I never have and never will boo my team. I just want to be fair to those who have on occasion done so. For those hard-headed booers that know no other way, well, good luck to them in life.
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