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Simplified Offense

Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:55 am
Posted by Flamefighter
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:55 am
This is something that has been bothering since I read it. Why should LSU/Miles have to simplify the offense for QB's that should know the system by now? This isn't highschool where you have to play the hand thats dealt. There is no excuse for a 3 year starter to still be struggling running the offense and game plan. Blame it on coaching or players not being smart enough to learn and execute the system after 3 years.

There I got it off my chest. Carry On Rant!
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:01 am to
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It's really sad that a Junior cannot understand the offense. But you look at JJ's face when he gets the play call and confusion still persists. He really is one of the most unintelligent football players I've seen with his amount of athletic ability.


I'm not going to even get into the ignorant "unintelligent" comment.

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Decent High School QBs can call out basic blitz packages. Jefferson lacks the simple ability to even audible out of that. Tell me how many times Jefferson audibles to a passing play in a given game. It's really sad.


Jefferson has checked off into a few pass plays already this year. Once against MSU where he hit Shepard for a pretty good gain. He's also signaled which side of the line Ridley should run to on one of the big runs against MSU. Greg Bowswer talked about both audibles during the Cox replay.
Posted by Flamefighter
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:03 am to
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It's really sad that a Junior cannot understand the offense.


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I'm not going to even get into the ignorant "unintelligent" comment.



You disagree with this?
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:05 am to
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He's also signaled which side of the line Ridley should run to on one of the big runs against MSU


All the more reason why I said passing play. Not running play, passing play. So you gave me 1...Hmm in an SEC ballgame the QB had one audible. Pretty stellar right there.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:06 am to
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You disagree with this?


Yes
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:07 am to
You're a fricking retard.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:08 am to
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All the more reason why I said passing play. Not running play, passing play. So you gave me 1...Hmm in an SEC ballgame the QB had one audible. Pretty stellar right there.


He checked off into some slants against UNC and Vandy. Both times mentioned on the Cox replay.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:09 am to
Hey Mighty Yat, tell me why Jefferson can't throw the ball two yards out of the backfield. RS has to make a miraculous catch on almost every throw out of the backfield. He never hits the guy in stride. I've never seen an SEC QB that bad at that throw.

It's horrendous.
This post was edited on 9/21/10 at 10:10 am
Posted by MightyYat
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:10 am to
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Hey Mighty Yat, tell me why Jefferson can't throw the ball two yards out of the backfield. RS has to make a miraculous catch on almost every throw out of the backfield.

It's horrendous.


I've already said he has trouble with those throws.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:14 am to
And I think that's the whole point. It's basic execution. It's not hard. It's like a free throw, 3 foot putt, or throwing a baseball from 2nd base to 1st. It just takes concentration and focus. Both of which Jefferson lacks.

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:15 am to
Really we get excited when he checks off once or twice a game? Seriously. He is a Jr and he still cannot read a defense. As in why he never checks off when there is 8 in the box, it makes no sense, I feel JJs football IQ is that of a highschooler
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:16 am to
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And I think that's the whole point. It's basic execution. It's not hard. It's like a free throw, 3 foot putt, or throwing a baseball from 2nd base to 1st. It just takes concentration and focus. Both of which Jefferson lacks.


And what exactly is your answer? Lee's problem was he floated that shite out there and got them picked. The real answer is we need a QB coach.
Posted by MightyYat
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Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:17 am to
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Really we get excited when he checks off once or twice a game? Seriously. He is a Jr and he still cannot read a defense. As in why he never checks off when there is 8 in the box, it makes no sense, I feel JJs football IQ is that of a highschooler


You do realize not many college QBs check off plays at the LOS don't you?
Posted by sec417r39
Member since Oct 2009
665 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:19 am to
For some reason I do not think that GC is the problem. We averaged like 34 points in 2008.
I believe the problem is the QB.
Here is my analysis of the Qb situation. It kind of relates to life. When learning to ride a bike if the training wheels are never taken off the person wont ever learn. Lee had training wheels for about half a game. He has the scars to learn from. JJ has had the training wheels his whole career. Some people never learn how to ride a bike. I believe that JJ couldn't ride a bike if the training wheels were taken off. JL is healed up and has his confidence back. Its time to ride again.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:23 am to
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For some reason I do not think that GC is the problem. We averaged like 34 points in 2008.
I believe the problem is the QB.
Here is my analysis of the Qb situation. It kind of relates to life. When learning to ride a bike if the training wheels are never taken off the person wont ever learn. Lee had training wheels for about half a game. He has the scars to learn from. JJ has had the training wheels his whole career. Some people never learn how to ride a bike. I believe that JJ couldn't ride a bike if the training wheels were taken off. JL is healed up and has his confidence back. Its time to ride again.


Based on what exactly? Look, the coaches can't be afraid to ask Jefferson to do more. He doesn't call the plays. If Jefferson indeed doesn't know th play book that's as much on the coaches as it is on Jefferson. They shouldn't play a QB that can't grasp the offense in 3 years. I just can't believe our coaches are that stupid. Although there's always a chance....
Posted by just me
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:24 am to
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He really is one of the most unintelligent football players I've seen with his amount of athletic ability.
What do you base this assessment on?

How does he look unintelligent?
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:24 am to
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There is no excuse for a 3 year starter to still be struggling running the offense and game plan.
I agree with this. Do you think Nick Saban would have put up with this crap? Miles does not know how to motivate these guys, especially JJ. JJ is always looking for somebody else to blame.

Out of excuses.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:26 am to
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I agree with this. Do you think Nick Saban would have put up with this crap? Miles does not know how to motivate these guys, especially JJ. JJ is always looking for somebody else to blame.


This I agree with. I hated his "poor me, I'm still learning" shite he pulled last week. Kind came off as a little bit cry-babish.
Posted by Flamefighter
Center Field
Member since Dec 2007
7629 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:28 am to
This whole QB situation blows my mind. We are top tier program who could basically have any QB recruit we want. Instead we "dumb" down our offense to accommodate the ones we have. Makes No Sense!

If I owned a company and hired a guy to do a job. After his initial training he still couldn't grasp the job. I would fire him and find someone that could. That Simple!
Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
2021 posts
Posted on 9/21/10 at 10:29 am to
That offense was so dumbed down for him last Saturday. If you are only going to trust your QB to throw 16 times in the game, you might as well play Russell Shep there.

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