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re: Official Offensive Playcalling Thread

Posted on 9/20/10 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by just me
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Posted on 9/20/10 at 12:23 pm to
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how is completing 12 passes for a measily 79 yards developing and becoming a better QB?
12 passes for 79 yards?
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isn't the role of a developed QB to move the ball down the field and get the ball to your playmakers with opportunnity to succed?
If you are correct, how did Jefferson not do that against State? How many punts or turnovers did LSU have? In any event, the role of the QB is to perform as the QB is asked to perform. Jefferson did that well.



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once aqain completing 10 passes for 97 yards is not playing excellent or proving development. he's in essentially his 20th game as a starting college QB and still can't make a decesive read. an excellent game by a QB is getting the ball to your playmakers with opportunnities to succed.
How many opportunities did Jefferson have to throw? Sixteen. He completed over 60% of his passes. More importantly, Jefferson put his team in scoring position on every possession except for one.



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outside of the one drop that Sheppard had on a deep throw, give me another example of Jefferson throwing the ball downfield that would have given his playmakers an opportunnity to make a big play.
Outside of the one drop that Shepard had on a deep throw, give me another example of when Jefferson was asked to throw the ball downfield.



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so because a QB has 0 turnovers that constitutes as a great game? you keep saying Jefferson had a great game, but it was far from that. yes having no turnovers is a great STAT to have, but when the rest of the game you played was less than ideal, how can you say it was great.
Look at the plays Jefferson was asked to execute and consider how he executed them. He did a great job.



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he finally had a good run in the option package, but that had more to do with a breakdown in MSU defense than the individual effeort of Jefferson. you cannot win in the SEC with a QB who continues to throw for less than 100 yards.
So you're saying that on an option, he read the defense and took advantage of its breakdown. Isn't that what he is supposed to do on an option?



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you cannot win in the SEC with a QB who continues to throw for less than 100 yards.
Except that he has won in the SEC throwing for less than 100 yards. Twice. And he hasn't lost yet.



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WVU will crowd the line and dare Jefferson to beat them this week. they will have the best Defense LSU has seen to date. we'll see how all those 6 yard pass completions work this week.
The same WVU that got taken to OT by Marshall? The same WVU team that gave up a 100 yard rushing game to a Marshall player?
Posted by BobBoucher
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Posted on 9/20/10 at 12:36 pm to
I got a kick out of this one...

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More importantly, Jefferson put his team in scoring position on every possession except for one.



what was our average starting field position, like their 46 yard line? damn near FG territory.

Its more like our defense and special teams put our team in scoring postion, and Jefferson didnt do anything to screw it up this time.
This post was edited on 9/20/10 at 12:39 pm
Posted by mt1
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Posted on 9/20/10 at 1:28 pm to
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How many punts or turnovers did LSU have?


I will point out that you don't generally punt from field goal range. This says nothing of his ability to move the ball.

Not directed at the above but I love the people on here saying he didn't have yards because we had a short field. No, we didn't rack up yards because we didn't move the ball but were lucky enough to be in field goal range when we got stopped.
Posted by truck man
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Posted on 9/20/10 at 2:58 pm to
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12 passes for 79 yards?


i'm sorry it was 13 passes. versus UNC aside from one pass to Randle for 51 yards and one pass to Jospeh for 21 yards, he completed 13 more passes for 79 yards. the one 51 yard completion may have been the best throw he's ever made in an LSU uniform. he was asked to throw downfield more times in this game, but again after his first read wasn't open he just check down to the dump off guy. he never scanned the field and found secondary WR who ran intermediate routes.

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If you are correct, how did Jefferson not do that against State? How many punts or turnovers did LSU have? In any event, the role of the QB is to perform as the QB is asked to perform. Jefferson did that well.


when you're average starting field position is the opponents 46 yard line, i hope you don't have to punt much. and if you can move the ball 10 yards, you are in FG range. let's talk about the failed opportunnities to punch the ball in the end zone in plus field position instead of how many punts LSU had.

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How many opportunities did Jefferson have to throw? Sixteen. He completed over 60% of his passes. More importantly, Jefferson put his team in scoring position on every possession except for one.


once again the Defense and Special Teams put the Tigers in position to score. Jefferson did lead two TD drives, one of which he only had to go 28 yards and the running game did all the work.


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Outside of the one drop that Shepard had on a deep throw, give me another example of when Jefferson was asked to throw the ball downfield.


there were a few times he looked to throw downfield, but after his #1 wasn't open he checked down, instead of going through his progressions and finding another Wr on an intermediate route.

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Look at the plays Jefferson was asked to execute and consider how he executed them. He did a great job


if you call constantly checking down after your number #1 option isn't open instead of scanning the field for other options, doing a great job, then you obviously accept mediocrity.


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So you're saying that on an option, he read the defense and took advantage of its breakdown. Isn't that what he is supposed to do on an option?


you got me there. guess i was just surprised that after 2 years, he finally read the option correctly.

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Except that he has won in the SEC throwing for less than 100 yards. Twice. And he hasn't lost yet.


against the 2 worst SEC teams he'll play this year. does anyone not think that in games versus Florida, Tennesse, Alabama, Aurburn and Arkansas that an output like that will not win us those games.

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The same WVU that got taken to OT by Marshall? The same WVU team that gave up a 100 yard rushing game to a Marshall player?


they still have a better Defense than MSU, UNC and Vandy
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