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open faced fishing reel cutting line
Posted on 9/15/10 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 9/15/10 at 5:50 pm
One of my ambassadeur C3's just started cutting my fishing line occasionally on long casts. the line gets caught between the spool and the reel casing and then just gets sliced. this is the third reel i've had do this to me, the others were a shimano and another ambassadeur C5000.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know if it's fixable or if the reel is just trash now or what? The ambassadeur C3 and C4 series have been indestructible for me up til now so i hate to see one go down like this.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know if it's fixable or if the reel is just trash now or what? The ambassadeur C3 and C4 series have been indestructible for me up til now so i hate to see one go down like this.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 6:20 pm to gorillacoco
Is the line old, and/or twisted? Are you using any conditioner?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 8:48 pm to gorillacoco
Have you done a lot of saltwater fishing without thoroughly rinsing your reel? That's the most brittle I've seen line get. You might be getting slight backlashes which snap the brittle line.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 7:27 am to gorillacoco
i replaced the line in March from a new spool of big game Trilene from Academy. I have used the reel an saltwater in the past but not recently and i do rinse my reels thoroughly every time i do so. i know that doesn't guarantee they won't corrode though.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 9:29 am to gorillacoco
Are you sure its not a buggered up eye on the rod.A slight chip in the eye ring will shread mono.I can't see how you could make "a long" cast if the line wasn't spooling off the reel properly.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 10:31 am to redfish99
good idea redfish i'll check the eyelets when i get home tonight.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:12 pm to gorillacoco
Gorilla I bet thats what it is.Now you don't have to trash your reeels.You can lightly sand down the nicks on the eyes then put some kind of clearcoat on it to smooth it out.Or go buy that new rod you've been wanting.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 2:33 pm to redfish99
Do you get backlashes often? If so you may be making a crimp in the line that weakens the line at that spot. Or if you fail to completely un spool the backlash down to where the line is tight and smooth on the reel again you may have a slack loop that is positioned parrallel with the spool shaft. This loop will usually stick past the edges of spool slightly and can get caught where you are describing.
Prevent this by either not getting backlashes, or unspooling all the way down and then with wet fingers apply pressure to the line while reeling it all back in smoothly on the reel.
Prevent this by either not getting backlashes, or unspooling all the way down and then with wet fingers apply pressure to the line while reeling it all back in smoothly on the reel.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 4:34 pm to Bleeding purple
i mean, i get backlashes as often as the next guy. i'm not a pro fisherman but i've been fishing with open faced reels for upwards of 12 years now. if you fish with them you know that sometimes when you make a longer cast the line will sort of start to 'bush out' a little during the cast, but if you thumb it correctly it will work itself out before the bait lands (most of the time). This is how i think the line gets caught between the spool and reel casing. Like redfish says though i might just hvae to check the eyelets. I'll check them tonight and report back.....
Posted on 9/16/10 at 4:43 pm to gorillacoco
Hey, we all get backlashes but if your line is feathering out too much at the reel when you cast, you are losing distance and cast efficency. Try adjusting your braking system or altering your cast speed and/or power.
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Let us know what ya find.
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 5:05 pm to redfish99
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Are you sure its not a buggered up eye on the rod.A slight chip in the eye ring will shread mono.I can't see how you could make "a long" cast if the line wasn't spooling off the reel properly.
Yep i had my rod do the same. it had a creak in the ceramic in one of the eyes
Posted on 9/16/10 at 5:28 pm to Limbhanger
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it had a creak in the ceramic
damn that must have been loud and annoying.
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This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 9:23 pm to gorillacoco
What does "open-faced" mean? Spinning, Baitcasting? I assume it means not spincasting, which is only for children.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 9:32 pm to Tbobby
Openface= Baitcaster
Spinning = Knuckle Buster
Spinning = Knuckle Buster
Posted on 9/16/10 at 9:50 pm to BayouRat15
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Spinning = Knuckle Buster
I don't see how a properly sized spinning rod/reed combo could allow the bail to hit your knuckle.
Posted on 9/17/10 at 1:11 pm to Bleeding purple
so i tried it out for a bit today and i'm 99% sure it's getting caught between the spool and the reel casing. i casted 20-30 times with no problems and then i started casting without thumbing the reel to deliberately backlash it. after about 6-7 casts of reeling in over the backlashes it cut the line that was backlashed and still on the spool.
i inspected the eyelets on my rod before i started casting and couldn't find any nicks or cracks. also i might add that when i have had an eyelet crack it tends to shred the line rather than slicing it...
the spool does have a tiny bit of play to it; i can move it back and forth a hair and i can see how the line could just fit in between the spool and reel casing. so does anyone know why this happens or if it's fixable?
i clean and grease the insides maybe once every 1.5 yrs. i've had the reel at least 6-7 years and done a good bit of fishing with it, but not like every weekend... TIA
i inspected the eyelets on my rod before i started casting and couldn't find any nicks or cracks. also i might add that when i have had an eyelet crack it tends to shred the line rather than slicing it...
the spool does have a tiny bit of play to it; i can move it back and forth a hair and i can see how the line could just fit in between the spool and reel casing. so does anyone know why this happens or if it's fixable?
i clean and grease the insides maybe once every 1.5 yrs. i've had the reel at least 6-7 years and done a good bit of fishing with it, but not like every weekend... TIA
Posted on 9/17/10 at 3:40 pm to gorillacoco
Gorilla you should not be able to move the spool side to side enough to get line inside the crack.You probably had an o-ring or rubber washer wear out.Bring it Superior or some other reel repair shop, should be pennies if they diagnose it over the counter for you.They can order the part if they don't have it.
Posted on 9/18/10 at 12:31 pm to gorillacoco
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i'm 99% sure it's getting caught between the spool and the reel casing
If this is happening you should be able to see it.
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after about 6-7 casts of reeling in over the backlashes it cut the line that was backlashed and still on the spool
I think you are crimping you line with the backlash. This GREATLY weakens it and will cause it break. Also, if the line is backlashed you have created a stop point that might be shorter than your casting distance. This results in a dog on a chain sort of event where the lure is pulling line off the reel when it suddenly is yanked to a stop without any decceleration. This can easily snap lighter mono 17 lb and less especially with damage from a previous crimp in the line. Alternatively, when you backlash you create small loops of line that can loop over any protruding parts of the reel. The nut that attaches the line guide on the worm gear is a frequent spot for this to catch and it will also create the sudden stoppage issue noted above.
You have to clear all backlashes when you get them. You have to inspect the line for nicks and crimps as you reel it back on by running it through your pre wetted fingers. You have to make sure the line is spooled back on tightly and evenly for it to pull off smoothly on a cast.
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the spool does have a tiny bit of play to it; i can move it back and forth a hair and i can see how the line could just fit in between the spool and reel casing.
The previous poster is correct. You likely can fix this problem with the correct washer replacement. Some reels even come with cheap composite or plastic washers that easily wear down. Replace with a teflon or brass washer and you should be in good shape.
Where is the line broken off at? Tight to the spool axis or a few mm from that spot (at the distance to edge of the spool), or several inches from the spool. Only the one right next to the edge of the spool would match with the line getting caught there.
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