- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: BCS: If you had to pick either polls or computers...?
Posted on 8/21/10 at 5:01 pm to ULL Cool J
Posted on 8/21/10 at 5:01 pm to ULL Cool J
quote:Fair enough. I definitely respect your opinion...but I definitely want to make it hard for you to defend it.
But the way the Sooners lost in the Big 12 championship game should have taken them out of the BCS championship, imo.
So here goes....
Your case here is based on a single game (out of xiii at that point) that Oklahoma lost to a barely-ranked team 35-7.
Record:
Oklahoma 12-1
LSU 12-1
USC 11-1
Opponents' Record:
Oklahoma 88-80
LSU 76-77
USC 75-77
Points scored divided by Points Allowed:
Oklahoma 3.04
LSU 3.24
USC 2.25
Now, again, I definitely respect your opinion and know that you respect mine...but I would submit that our opinions should not matter when so much mathematical evidence suggests that Oklahoma had clearly had the best season of the three (and LSU second).
Oklahoma's season wasn't even subjectively better--it was mathematically better.
Southern California played a strong schedule, and they beat their opponents with a high frequency and by a wide margin.
Oklahoma played a stronger schedule, and they beat their opponents with a higher frequency and by a wider margin.
Basically, what I'm hearing from you and those who agree with you on this issue is that a game played on December 5 is more important than is a game played on September 27. To that, I say that all regular season games count equally.
Now, if you want to look at all that on-field evidence and place so much more importance on the game played in Kansas City on December 5, 2001, than on all the other games played, that is your choice and your prerogative, and I can respect it. (I guess I just don't get it.)
I...just...can't...let...this...go...ever...help...me...*cough*
This post was edited on 8/21/10 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 8/21/10 at 5:29 pm to xiv
LOL! I get your point. But, again imo, the FBS division has too disparate a group of programs to go to pure computer selection.
Suppose one year the computer selected undefeated WAC champion Louisiana Tech to play undefeated MAC champion Toledo, when, to the real world, neither deserved to be in the top ten. Further, to make this scenario work, the real bigtime programs don't have one or two teams clearly ahead of the pack (like Texas and USC in 2005) but are bunched up, such as was the case in 2007. Would you be okay with going through the charade of treating Latech vs. Toledo as the national championship game, knowing there were 8 to 10 two-loss teams that would handily beat either?
Oh and on the OU argument, they didn't win their conference.
But on something we both agree: Latech is afraid of ULM.
Suppose one year the computer selected undefeated WAC champion Louisiana Tech to play undefeated MAC champion Toledo, when, to the real world, neither deserved to be in the top ten. Further, to make this scenario work, the real bigtime programs don't have one or two teams clearly ahead of the pack (like Texas and USC in 2005) but are bunched up, such as was the case in 2007. Would you be okay with going through the charade of treating Latech vs. Toledo as the national championship game, knowing there were 8 to 10 two-loss teams that would handily beat either?
Oh and on the OU argument, they didn't win their conference.
But on something we both agree: Latech is afraid of ULM.
This post was edited on 8/21/10 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/21/10 at 5:44 pm to xiv
quote:
Opponents' Record:
Oklahoma 88-80
LSU 76-77
USC 75-77
The problem with the whole strength of schedule piece of the formula is that it assumes everything is equal.
In your formula, if team A beats an SEC school that finishes 11-1, and team B beats a Sun Belt school that finishes 11-1, there is no difference.
In addition, once you get past a certain point, does it really matter?...ie when you look at the weaker portion of a team's schedule. For instance, should team A's victory over a 1-11 team really vault them over team B who beat a 2-10 squad?
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News