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If you were a local attorney...

Posted on 7/9/10 at 9:57 am
Posted by RTS001
New Orleans, LA
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 9:57 am
Would you represent any of the responsible parties?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:03 am to
Sure you would, it doesn't mean you agree with thier actions, it means you are representing them to the best of your abilities under the law.

And you would get rich off of years of litigation and lawsuits.

And, defending clients is what lawyers do. There are 1000's of people working and getting paid by BP right now helping them clean up the spill, why would a lawyer be different?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Sure you would, it doesn't mean you agree with thier actions, it means you are representing them to the best of your abilities under the law.

And you would get rich off of years of litigation and lawsuits.

And, defending clients is what lawyers do. There are 1000's of people working and getting paid by BP right now helping them clean up the spill, why would a lawyer be different?


This. Plus, I would make them pay a fat retainer, just in case they decide to go the bankruptcy route.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
32739 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:45 am to
this gonna drag on for a while....think of all the billings!!!!
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 10:57 am to
I get a hard-on just thinking about it.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 1:56 pm to
Life is about Bull shite walking and Money Talking
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Life is about Bull shite walking and Money Talking


word
Posted by lsutiger_08
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
6683 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 4:06 pm to
Hell yea I would. This disaster might actually mean I stand a chance at getting a job out of school
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108151 posts
Posted on 7/9/10 at 6:33 pm to
Good luck w/ that. Market is tight as a snare drum right now.
Posted by kingfish
Member since Jan 2007
853 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:57 am to
Nope. At the end of the day I have to live with myself and feel good about what I do. Representing rich oil companies who make enourmous profits without regard to the safety of their workers or the environment is not something I would be proud of , nor would the money make up for prostituting myself at the expense of hard working people and our precious environment. That's why I don't do work for insurance companies either.
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:08 am to
Most attorneys are not moral people and will sell their soul to the devil for any amount of money while hiding behind the law.
Posted by lsutiger_08
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
6683 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:13 am to
Dude it's just a job.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
108151 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Many attorneys are not moral people and will sell their soul to the devil for any amount of money while hiding behind the law.


FIFY

There are plenty of dishonest/shady/amoral lawyers out there (just as there are doctors, police, oil company execs, environmentalists, etc.). I am not going to say that there may not be a higher percentage in the profession, but the majority of attorneys that I know and deal with are actually pretty upstanding and honest people.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:49 am to
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Representing rich oil companies who make enourmous profits without regard to the safety of their workers or the environment is not something I would be proud of


You should be. Those oil companies essentially make our lives in an industrial society possible. Back before oil, cities were polluted and disease-ridden due to all the horse manure in the streets, for example.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20072 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:53 am to
Question for lawyers, can a company sue MMS for not giving out permits or can they legally withhold them until the appeals is done?
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
108151 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:02 pm to
Yes. They can file an mandamus action to compel the MMS to essentially do its job. However, there is no guarantee of success because such agencies are typically vested with pretty wide discretion in issuing such permits. Still, it would not be completely fruitless either, as court do issue such orders (see, e.g., courts ordering the issuance of building permits, alcohol permits, etc.).
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20072 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:59 pm to
How long would this process take? If I was a company wanting to drill in shallow water I would diff be looking at this as an option.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
108151 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 3:07 pm to
I don't know the nuts and bolts, but there is likely an administrative process that must be exhausted first; however, those usually only come into play when a permit application is denied. In this case, there are no permits being issued, which would seem to take it out of that regime.

The company would file a complaint/petition in a US District Court (depending on how the permitting process works, it could be in the USDC with jurisdiction over the particular regional office, or it could be with the DC court). One could request expedited consideration (as was done with the moratorium [since an injunction was requested]); however, the process would take a few months at least.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20072 posts
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:13 pm to
So the gov gets what it wants regardless, figures.
Posted by kingfish
Member since Jan 2007
853 posts
Posted on 7/11/10 at 8:43 am to
In response to "its just a job" or we should be beholden to oil companies just because of our reliance on fossel fuels I say two things:
First, working in a sewer pit is just a job, but it isn't something I want to do, nor will I do.
Second, just because we , as a society , are reliant on fossel fuels doesn't mean that companies that drill for oil have a license to kill/maim their workers or destroy the environment for the rest of us without being held accountable.
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