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So who is the biggest loser

Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:13 pm
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:13 pm
Did the Pac 10 make a tremendous blunder? You know that they don't really want to do the 12 team thing because then they would be expected to play a conference championship game. Now they will have to go after a team with a much smaller TV market. With USC being out of the BCS loop for now can there be an uglier covference than them right now? Greed is a horrible thing. They were already talking about 2 automatic bids to the BCS. Now it is time for a little humble pie. And Texas got rid of one of the teams that was up and coming and might challenge them for the conference championship. Now they can change their name to the Big 2 with that being Texas and Oklahoma as it should be.
Posted by dos crystal
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:15 pm to
big xII, not even close. pac 10 gets utah, picks up colorado and salt lake media markets, they can have a championship game and be a bigger player nationally for the n.c. game.

big XII is now the 4 to 5 best conference.
Posted by LSUfannLA
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:18 pm to
Biggest loser I'd say is Texas. Not in financial terms of course but reputation and fans.

I know I'd have a hard time picking sides in a Texas-Notre Dame game now.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:20 pm to
So SEC, Big 10 +2, ACC, Pac 11, Big 12-2 in that order?
Posted by dos crystal
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:22 pm to
yes. they should align to share the same b.c.s. bowl as the big east.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:25 pm to
The Mountain West. Had a chance to slide in as a major player and likely won't if Utah departs.

Winning and losing depends on your perspective. Seems like UT has an easier road to the NCG and makes more money. Not sure how they are losers. Hell, the rest of the league too, makes more money and has less competition it seems.
This post was edited on 6/14/10 at 9:37 pm
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:28 pm to
Someone explain to me how the state of Texas,Kansas and Oklahoma can get a bigger amount of money than a conferences spread out over several states. I could care less to watch a game from that conference.
This post was edited on 6/14/10 at 10:00 pm
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:33 pm to
they don't. their t.v. deal is 84 million. s.e.c. is over 200 million. those three teams get a bigger peace of the pie. that's it. s.e.c. gets paid by c.b.s. too.

aggies were getting 7 million last year. now they are getting 20 mil. however, iowa st. probably gets 4 to 7 mil.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:35 pm to
That explains why Texas and Oklahoma can dominate year in and year out. The rest of the teams have to live from the crumbs dropped under the table.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:37 pm to
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Biggest loser I'd say is Texas.


I don't think so. Texas is now Notre Dame except they control 9 other schools. Texas is a HUGE winner in all of this. Yeah, they get some negative press. But they got rid of the thorn in their side (Nebraska), they got to keep their network, the negotiated for more revenue and they are now in a conference where they truly need to win no more than 3 and possibly only one game and walk into the national championship game (where they will be pummeled by the battle-tested SEC champ 4 out of 5 times--luck on the 1 out of 5 times they win).
Posted by Mike Linebacker
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:39 pm to
Big loser is the Pac-10, unless they ink Utah and then it is the Mountain West/Boise.

Aggie is the runner up because they are now totally locked under Texas' thumb. However, they are being paid to get screwed by Texas. So what does that make em?
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:44 pm to
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Big loser is the Pac-10


Disagree, they could have been a HUGE winner but they will end up with a net gain. Their big loss happened last week when their stallion got his balls detached for 2-4 years.

The Buffs are a good gain, and Utah would be as well. Although I disagree with the strength of the Denver market; it's not like south, and not everyone is a Buff fan. Sure there are many who are but it's not as dominant as you would think.
This post was edited on 6/14/10 at 9:46 pm
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:57 pm to
Mizzou--Big 10 invite didn't happen and now they are stuck having to play Texas and Oklahoma every year along with TAMU, OK St, TT, and KS. They will be lucky to win 8 games from here on out.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:59 pm to
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Mizzou


Good call
Posted by allyprest
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:01 pm to
Texas is the winner of this award and Mizzou for not moving.
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Aggie is the runner up because they are now totally locked under Texas' thumb. However, they are being paid to get screwed by Texas. So what does that make em?


Legal in Nevada.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Mizzou


In the end not too bad but considering they had a big role is starting all this and talking shite about being more like Northwestern and Purdue than TT and OSU, the definitely have egg on their face. Plus, they lose their ability to have a mediocre season, win one big game and make it to a BCS bowl.
Posted by rickyh
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:05 pm to
Does anyone know if other conferences give different amounts to its members? What would be the formula for such an arrangement? This is all news to me but it makes sense as to how certain teams can control a conference as long as Texas and Oklahoma has.
Posted by rickyh
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/16/10 at 1:16 am to
Now that the smoke has cleared, it seems that Texas has borrowed a page from the Big 10 and the Pac 10. Texas saw how not having to play a conference championship game gave the other conferences a better chance of playing in the national championship game. They got rid of one of their strongest opponents to the big 10 which is now the big 12. The Pac 10 now the Pac 11 was already saying that they didn't want to play a championship game if they went to 16 but wanted 2 automatic bids. Seems Texas who claimed to be to smart to be part of the SEC. Outsmarted everyone.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/16/10 at 8:50 am to
Mizzou is now the step child. Va Tech probably had a chance for the SEC but not now. Rutgers had its bag packed for the Big Ten but that is on hold/
This post was edited on 6/16/10 at 9:09 am
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