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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:43 pm
People, let's get something straight. Just becuase a team plays in a certain city DOES NOT MEAN that the people of that city watch tht particular team. For example, no one in Houston gives a damn about watching UH or Rice play football. They watch Texas, A&M or LSU. People in Atlanta DO NOT WATCH Georgia Tech- they watch Georgia or Auburn. And finally, my biggest pet peeve: NEw York City is the TWENTY-FIFTH biggest market for college football- the people there like pro (and for God's sake the ones there that DO watch college footbll DON'T watch Rutgers- they watch a bunch of other teams: Penn St. Notr Dame etc.)
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:45 pm to secfan123
got some links to facts to back up those baseless allegations brah?
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:49 pm to secfan123
With the Big Ten Network deal, it doesn't matter how many people actually watch the games on television. What matters is how many people are cable subscribers on cable networks that carry the Big Ten Network.
As of right now, all of the other conferences depend on viewership numbers for their contracts. The Big Ten Network does not depend on viewership.
As of right now, all of the other conferences depend on viewership numbers for their contracts. The Big Ten Network does not depend on viewership.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:49 pm to DollaChoppa
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got some links to facts to back up those baseless allegations brah?
get off your lazy arse and look at each school and how much money they bring in for football (especially how well they fill their own damn stadium- this ESPECIALLY goes for Georgia Tech and Maimi). As for the New York market, read the introduction to Rammer Jammer, the guy that wrote it had some good insights (abd cited facts-which is where I got the numbers for the New York market).
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:50 pm to secfan123
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secfan123
Agree, it certainly seems that college football markets are predominately small and mid-size areas. Large metropolitan areas are more into pro sports.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:52 pm to CrazyTigerFan
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With the Big Ten Network deal, it doesn't matter how many people actually watch the games on television.
It does when you cosider this: They need people willing to pay for the deal- if people don't, or if they show low enough interest, the money goes away. Would more people watch (or suscribe) to Big Ten television if they invited Rutgers to join? No, bcuase nobody (in New York or anywhere else) cares about Rutgers
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:54 pm to secfan123
You're missing the point. The cable networks in that region WANT to carry the Big Ten Network because the graduates of the Big Ten schools work in those markets (think LSU grads in Houston or Atlanta.. cities nowhere near Baton Rouge). There are multiple cable network options in that region, and potential subscribers could just go to another provider if a given cable network did not carry the Big Ten Network.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:58 pm to CrazyTigerFan
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You're missing the point. The cable networks in that region WANT to carry the Big Ten Network because the graduates of the Big Ten schools work in those markets (think LSU grads in Houston or Atlanta.
thats my point exactly- the viewers there want to see teams OTHER thn Rutgers. Adding Rutgers would bring in next to nothing as far as more viewers are concerned.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:00 pm to secfan123
So you come in here, throw around allegations, and then ask us to go prove them for you. ok. 
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:04 pm to DollaChoppa
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So you come in here, throw around allegations, and then ask us to go prove them for you. ok.
You're an idiot if you think Houston or Rice gets a significant share of the tv market there. Simply look at how many they attract to their games. Ditto wit the other teams I mentioned. Don't get butthurt becuase you never figured this out.
Christ Houston lays in a 32,000 seat stadium. Even if they filled it, which they don't, that right there tells me that not many people in the third or fourth largest city in the US give a damn about watching them play football- Ditto for the other teams I named.
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 4:12 pm to secfan123
I'll simplify it for you one last time. Please try and follow along this time.
For the Big Ten Network, the number of viewers of the programming is not of primary importance. In states/MSAs that have member institutions in the Big Ten, the number of subscribers to cable, satellite, and internet providers that carry the Big Ten Network are what matter.
The subscribers are not subscribing to the Big Ten Network directly (as they would for something like HBO, Showtime, NFL GamePlan, or the like), they are subscribing to television programing providers (aka "cable networks" or "satellite networks"). The Big Ten Network makes money from every household that subscribes to the television programing provider itself, just like ESPN (which is also a sports programming network, the same way that the Big Ten Network is). The member institutions of the Big Ten receive revenue from the Big Ten Network.
viewers != subscribers
For the Big Ten Network, the number of viewers of the programming is not of primary importance. In states/MSAs that have member institutions in the Big Ten, the number of subscribers to cable, satellite, and internet providers that carry the Big Ten Network are what matter.
The subscribers are not subscribing to the Big Ten Network directly (as they would for something like HBO, Showtime, NFL GamePlan, or the like), they are subscribing to television programing providers (aka "cable networks" or "satellite networks"). The Big Ten Network makes money from every household that subscribes to the television programing provider itself, just like ESPN (which is also a sports programming network, the same way that the Big Ten Network is). The member institutions of the Big Ten receive revenue from the Big Ten Network.
viewers != subscribers
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