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The more I watch Paul Maineiri
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:10 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:10 am
the more I'm convinced managing in game situations is not his strongest attribute. When your first two hitters reach base in the eighth inning of a one run elimination game its baseball 101 that you lay down a bunt with the next hitter. If that hitter has zero ability to bunt then you pinch hit with the best bunter you have available for sole purpose of moving the runners up a base.
Mike Gillespe in his sleep would have known to bunt. Augie Garrido in a drunken stupor would have known to bunt. Its an elimination game. You either score or you cease to play baseball for eight months.
But Paul Maineiri made yet another bad coaching decision which just reinforces my suspicion about his inability to manage games.
Now this is where I invite rantards to respond and confirm yet another one of my suspicions, that many of you know very little about the sports you watch.
Funniest post I've read yet about this situation was "Maineiri didn't want to go to extra innings." Yea ranter, losing in nine was his preference.
I've posted previously about Maineiri's game management shortcomings but this one is so blatant that even I wouldn't have thought he could be so obtuse.
Mike Gillespe in his sleep would have known to bunt. Augie Garrido in a drunken stupor would have known to bunt. Its an elimination game. You either score or you cease to play baseball for eight months.
But Paul Maineiri made yet another bad coaching decision which just reinforces my suspicion about his inability to manage games.
Now this is where I invite rantards to respond and confirm yet another one of my suspicions, that many of you know very little about the sports you watch.
Funniest post I've read yet about this situation was "Maineiri didn't want to go to extra innings." Yea ranter, losing in nine was his preference.
I've posted previously about Maineiri's game management shortcomings but this one is so blatant that even I wouldn't have thought he could be so obtuse.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:12 am
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:12 am to Jay Quest
you don't take the bat out of your best hitter's hands with 0 outs and a runner in scoring position IMO. Then, say you pinch hit for Gibbs and even only get the one run. Then you're tied without your catcher and without your best hitter. Not exactly the best situation to be in.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:15 am to Elleshoe
Exactly. PM was playing the percentages there. I don't blame him at all for that. Its easy to criticize his decision after the game was lost but would you be here saying the same thing if he didn't?
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:16 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:15 am to Elleshoe
+1...anyone that questions PM as a good coach needs to take a long break from posting on here and watch the season recap of 08 and the 09 title year. Seriously people we didn't win this year because we weren't as good. Tough breaks and slumps beat us. We got a good group coming back and hopefully can keep the class in tact. We're fine and PM is an elite coach. /thread
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:16 am to Elleshoe
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you don't take the bat out of your best hitter's hands with 0 outs and a runner in scoring position IMO. Then, say you pinch hit for Gibbs and even only get the one run. Then you're tied without your catcher and without your best hitter. Not exactly the best situation to be in.
Yes you do, its odds. You have a better chance to score a run with runners on third and second and one out than you do with runners on first and second and no outs....regardless of who is at the plate.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:16 am to Elleshoe
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you don't take the bat out of your best hitter's hands with 0 outs and a runner in scoring position IMO
In most situations you're exactly right. This is the one situation where you do and you do it every time. Those runners had to be advanced. There's no way to spin Maineiri's blunder.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:19 am to macatak911
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Yes you do, its odds. You have a better chance to score a run with runners on third and second and one out than you do with runners on first and second and no outs....regardless of who is at the plate.
you still have Nola and then Landry up and neither of them did anything in their at bats that suggested they were going to get that run in. Play your chances with your best hitter to get one of your fastest runners in from second with zero outs.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:20 am to Geauxld Finger
Thank you.
ETA: OP is retarded.
ETA: OP is retarded.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:21 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:20 am to Jay Quest
Its a blunder only because it didn't work right... 
PM was playing his percentages. You would not be bitching right now if Gibbs smoked that ball. You don't go against the philosophy that got you to the regionals...
PM was playing his percentages. You would not be bitching right now if Gibbs smoked that ball. You don't go against the philosophy that got you to the regionals...
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:21 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:23 am to Geauxld Finger
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watch the season recap of 08 and the 09 title year.
Completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Personally I like Paul Maineiri but this was as fundamental a decision to make that can present itself in a game. He had to lay down that bunt in that situation.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:23 am to Elleshoe
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you still have Nola and then Landry up and neither of them did anything in their at bats that suggested they were going to get that run in.
You would play the at bat differently. You'd swing for the fences and hope for a deep popup thus scoring the run. Happens all the time.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:25 am to BayouBengals18
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OP is retarded.
Lord knows I love the rantards.Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:25 am to macatak911
agree to disagree. I dont remove my best hitter and practically only catcher with the potential for the game to continue for 2 or more defensive innings.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:27 am to Jay Quest
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Lord knows I love the rantards.
I dont think my thoughts on the situation are rantarded at all. maybe conservative and more "dance with the one who brung ya" but not retarded...
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:28 am to Elleshoe
I wasn't for removing him. Just have him bunt. You get two chances!
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:29 am to Holden Caulfield
If you are questioning PM as a coach then wouldn't you take in his entire body of work before criticizing his overall ability to manange.
As for the bunt not bunt situation. Almost every manager on earth would not bunt with your best hitter up and no outs. You have faith in your player to get the big hit. The Cardinals would not be having Pujols lay down a freakin bunt with 1st and 2nd and no outs. With Nola and Landry behind them you have the %'s in your favor that one of those guys will get a basehit, or the mere fact that Gibbs can at the very least, advance the runner with a deep fly ball.
As for the bunt not bunt situation. Almost every manager on earth would not bunt with your best hitter up and no outs. You have faith in your player to get the big hit. The Cardinals would not be having Pujols lay down a freakin bunt with 1st and 2nd and no outs. With Nola and Landry behind them you have the %'s in your favor that one of those guys will get a basehit, or the mere fact that Gibbs can at the very least, advance the runner with a deep fly ball.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:33 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:30 am to Elleshoe
Anyone who disagrees with the OP is clearly a ranter, according to the OP that is.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:30 am to Elleshoe
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I dont think my thoughts on the situation are rantarded at all
I don't either. Your opinion is valid. I wasn't referring to you.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 2:33 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:30 am to macatak911
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I wasn't for removing him. Just have him bunt. You get two chances!
remember his last bunt attempt? the ol' 1-6-3 double play
Posted on 6/7/10 at 2:31 am to Elleshoe
They're also not looking ahead at the situation. Say LSU ties it up that inning and then completes the 9th tied, they go into extra innings. LSU still has to play UCLA twice to win the regional. We could be burning more of our bullpen that will already be thin for UCLA.
This might have played into his decision too. Gibbs, our best hitter up, no outs. PM was going for the win right there, not the tying run. LSU couldn't afford to go into extra innings facing UCLA with potentially two games. Just my opinion...
This might have played into his decision too. Gibbs, our best hitter up, no outs. PM was going for the win right there, not the tying run. LSU couldn't afford to go into extra innings facing UCLA with potentially two games. Just my opinion...
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