re: Does anyone think Hawthorne is terrible after listening to these clowns?

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At least he does know that a ball that hits the plate after being hit by the batter isn't automatically a foul ball

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I'm not so sure about that. I've heard him say numerous times over the years "..and it's fouled off the plate". Maybe he does know and he just didn't want to explain where the ball was fielded.

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JH makes a lot of mistakes but for the most part he does at least know the rules.

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He knows the extreme basics, I can give him that, but not much else.