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The Jets and LSU
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:58 pm
If you look at the way the Jets have been winning their games it is apparent that they are trying to keep Mark Sanchez from feeling like he has to do too much. The Jets are able to do this because they have a strong running game because of a good offensive line and a very good defense. I believe the LSU coaches came into the 2009 season believing that they could protect Jordan Jefferson with a good offensive line and a strong running game. Turns out that unlike the Jets offensive line our offensive line was not adequate. I also believe that the offensive LSU coaching staff was somewhat scarred by the turn of events that took place in 2009 with Jarret Lee and became too conservative and protective with Jefferson in 2009 in hopes that what happened with Lee wouldn't also happen with Jefferson.
So, in order to succeed in 2010, our coaching staff better figure out an offensive line combination that can protect the quarterback and get the running game going again. Our coaching staff also must be more agressive on offense and quit coaching scared. Our defense also needs to continue to improve.
Just one man's opinion. Fire Away.
So, in order to succeed in 2010, our coaching staff better figure out an offensive line combination that can protect the quarterback and get the running game going again. Our coaching staff also must be more agressive on offense and quit coaching scared. Our defense also needs to continue to improve.
Just one man's opinion. Fire Away.
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Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:02 pm to lwalker
True, for the most part. However, it didn't matter how aggressive they got with Jefferson, the line was still atrocious in pass blocking as well. The nail on the the head is run-blocking. If you can't run, you can't win. I credit the coaching staff with getting the amount of wins we got with such a bad line. (However the bad o-line play also reflects coaching). If we can turn the o-line around, we will win a lot of games next year. Too many plays failed due to run-blocking and pass-blocking.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:16 pm to lwalker
In short....
Everything has to change..
Yep.. I agree..
Everything has to change..
Yep.. I agree..
Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:20 pm to lwalker
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So, in order to succeed in 2010, our coaching staff better figure out an offensive line combination that can protect the quarterback and get the running game going again. Our coaching staff also must be more agressive on offense and quit coaching scared. Our defense also needs to continue to improve.
Just one man's opinion. Fire Away.
excellent observation. my only addition is that both lines need to improve. if les and staff are able to acheive that then we will be a contender. since this is, in the minds of many Tiger fans, Les Miles' last year at LSU...he might as well geaux down with his guns blazin.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:27 pm to lwalker
Agree somewhat with OP. Part of many fan's frustration was that the play-calling in no way took into account our bad OL play. We needed more rollouts and above all else-quick passes. Either due to the coaches drilling at him that he can't throw picks or fear of throwing picks JJ holds on to the ball way too long. His glacial-speed release doesn't help either. We need quick WR routes and quick reads and quick release for bad OL play. This past year we rarely had all three of those.
If you are having trouble run-blocking the Wildcat (the true version with the sweep) can benefit also with the extra blocking guy.
I hope as an LSU fan that things turn around, but given Crowton's inability last year to change his playcalling to reflect the talents and weaknesses of the team offensively I remain dubious.
All of this calls into doubt Crowton's ability to coach. Any coach in any sport at any level should have the same goal-get the most out of what you have. This past year we didn't do that.
If you are having trouble run-blocking the Wildcat (the true version with the sweep) can benefit also with the extra blocking guy.
I hope as an LSU fan that things turn around, but given Crowton's inability last year to change his playcalling to reflect the talents and weaknesses of the team offensively I remain dubious.
All of this calls into doubt Crowton's ability to coach. Any coach in any sport at any level should have the same goal-get the most out of what you have. This past year we didn't do that.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:28 pm to lwalker
quote:Makes you wonder WTF they were thinking. Either they fooled themselves into believing something that wasn't real - OR - they really believed this OL was going to be very good. Either should signal cause for concern.
I believe the LSU coaches came into the 2009 season believing that they could protect Jordan Jefferson with a good offensive line and a strong running game.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:29 pm to byubengalboy
The Jets kind of remind me of Nebraska this year. I think that is a good way to play, but I think we would need more 3 and outs instead of them driving the field on us. A lot of this type of play has to do with field position and bend but don't break doesn't work well for that. 
good contribution to the rant
good contribution to the rantPosted on 1/20/10 at 2:30 pm to lwalker
Jets are just playing old school hard nosed football. Look at Bama this year or any of Saban's teams when he was here.
We dont need a gimmick offense. Good running game + great defense = championships.
We dont need a gimmick offense. Good running game + great defense = championships.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 2:58 pm to lwalker
The fallacy is thinking that Jefferson failed because we had no running game and no protection. The reality is that we had no running game because he can't throw, and we couldn't protect him because he can't step into the pocket or elude the rush or get rid of the ball soon enough. You can't establish the run to open up the pass or vice versa. It all works together. You have to be credible in both phases, or any decent defense will shut down whatever phase you are OK at, knowing they don't have to worry about the other. LSU opponents (Florida was a prime example) had the luxury of almost completely ignoring a very explosive corps of WRs downfield because they knew we'd rarely throw deep and that Jefferson couldn't deliver the ball even when we did try. They could stack the box, which shut down the run, then just pin their ears back and come after Jefferson, which resulted in many sacks.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 3:10 pm to Nuts4LSU
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The fallacy is thinking that Jefferson failed because we had no running game and no protection. The reality is that we had no running game because he can't throw, and we couldn't protect him because he can't step into the pocket or elude the rush or get rid of the ball soon enough. You can't establish the run to open up the pass or vice versa. It all works together. You have to be credible in both phases, or any decent defense will shut down whatever phase you are OK at, knowing they don't have to worry about the other. LSU opponents (Florida was a prime example) had the luxury of almost completely ignoring a very explosive corps of WRs downfield because they knew we'd rarely throw deep and that Jefferson couldn't deliver the ball even when we did try. They could stack the box, which shut down the run, then just pin their ears back and come after Jefferson, which resulted in many sacks.
... you need to watch more football.. the key to grooming an inexperienced QB is having a solid running game, not putting him in 5-wide sets.. as much as it pains me to say this, Nick Saban was/is one of the best at understanding this.. you dont need a 5 star, top notch prospect at QB if you have an offensive line that can block and 1 good runningback or a stable of backs.. Jefferson has every bit the capability of Matt Flynn or Matt Mauck, what sets them apart is both had great runnging games to feed off of that allowed them to manage their position in the same way Sanchez is doing for the JetsPosted on 1/20/10 at 3:14 pm to King Mello
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putting him in 5-wide sets
downfall of Lee. That dude was deflated by the end of last year and will probably never get his confidence back. Not to mention the home crowd booing at him. Thanks Wiz.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 3:19 pm to BayouTigers4Life
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you need to watch more football
Thank you. There is no way you could have watched this season and come to the conclusion that Jefferson was the problem. Just re-watch the CapOne Bowl Game and keep your eyes on the line. Drew Brees couldn't have succeeded in that game.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 3:35 pm to HtigerO
The JETS have 4 First round draft picks with which to work.Prob 30+ pro bowls combined.You can't recruit that,you must fit the scheme to the guys you can recruit.Put them in a position to succeed by calling the plays their attributes allow them to execute.Its called COACHING.................
Posted on 1/20/10 at 3:45 pm to lwalker
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I believe the LSU coaches came into the 2009 season believing that they could protect Jordan Jefferson with a good offensive line and a strong running game
I have zero faith in our coaches if this is true.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 4:36 pm to Chimlim
This is strictly my belief after watching the way the season unfolding. Just trying to make sense of it all.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 4:39 pm to redfish99
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The JETS have 4 First round draft picks with which to work.Prob 30+ pro bowls combined.You can't recruit that,you must fit the scheme to the guys you can recruit.Put them in a position to succeed by calling the plays their attributes allow them to execute.Its called COACHING................
LSU's defensive talent is not the problem. They are also playing against better offenses so the talent gap levels out.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 5:09 pm to nugget
Even with the bizarre offense LSU had against Penn State and the no pass rush, LSU was still the best team, amazing! With a final field goal kick, which LSU would have made, LSU wins. Purple and gold glases here, I know.
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