Thoughts triggered by georgialion's

Not long.

But CFB has changed immensely since Joe Pa's early years. Not only idiots on internet message boards, but the amount of money involved has escalated to the point that the dynamics of college programs then and now don't compare.

Depends on if Joe Pa was making the same salary as Miles. Seeing as the guy has been at PSU for over 40 years and still only makes around $1 million each year compared to Miles $3.75 million. Big, BIG difference.

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Had Joe Pa built LSU the way he built Penn State obviously feelings would be different.

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Would he have been given the time?

Maybe the bowl selection committee is dropping us hints at keeping things in perspective?

Gray, LSUMafia still thinks our AD is our former NC winning baseball coach so I would take all of his posts with a huge chunk of salt.

Oh.

That explains so much.

Thanks

Still spreading lies genuineLSUtiger? I guess so. You love to misinform people on my statements.

Furthermore GrayTiger, he did build a program. He's been there 40 years and averaged nearly 9 wins a year for that duration.

Fact is this isn't the mid 1960's when Joe Pa started at PSU. If Miles had started at LSU 44 years ago, I'd say most people would be happy with his overall results. Hell, just 5 years ago, PSU fans were calling for Joe Pa's head, but his track record of nearly 40 years (not 3 years) spoke for itself.

Les gets a lot of undeserved crap, but he also gets some deserved criticism.

By the way, I stated in the past that Bertman screwed us by the contract he gave Miles in 2007, and stated it as something along the lines of "Thanks to our AD's genius contract for Miles, we won't be getting rid of Miles". Anyone with common sense knew I was speaking of Bertman as a past tense, yet idiots like Genuinelsutiger like falsely go around accusing me of not knowing who our AD is.

It's also about people. As a proud Pennsylvanian, people up there tend to be older, Catholic, from Eastern Europe, and they value loyalty. Especially back in the 50's and 60's, when everyone was much more isolated than now. State College is still 90 minutes from the nearest airport. There is a Farm for gosh sake, right next to a 108,000 capacity stadium. I saw the corn field for my last game in 2006. If Joepa was at LSU that long and had success and not PSU, then he would still be there.

IMO Joe Pa should have been let go years ago.

Seriously...what has Penn State done in terms of competing for titles since 1994?

That year they got denied a chance to play Nebraska for the title. I haven't really considered Penn State a true contender since then.

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