Meachem TD?

unless you are starting him as a defensive player, you shouldn't recieve any pts for it

It counted toward my Saints D/ST

Most awesome 6 points Ive ever gotten so far in fantasy football

yea i see the saints D got the TD for it now...


guy i am playin has saints D too...

i have drew... so i got a INT and a TD against me all in the same play

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who got the points?

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who got the points?

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Meach, 1 Off Fum Ret TD....

I think my D should get the points. Maybe they will adjust that later??

lets discuss this situation

Here's the play.

Brees pass is intercepted by Moore.
Moore then runs with the ball and gets stripped by Meachem.
Meachem then runs down the field for a TD.

All things involved are a Forced Fumble
Meachem running 40 yards with ball
Touch Down

My Thoughts:
at the time of fumble Meachem is a defensive player.
Therefore we can scratch out the 40 yards mattering.
now the main question is - Who gets credit for the TD and fumble recovery?
A. Meachem
B. Saints Def
C. Meachem and Saints Def

I think it will end up being credited to NOLA Def and nothing to Meachem.

Thoughts?

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I think it will end up being credited to NOLA Def and nothing to Meachem.

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i think this is right... but what confused me is he had it listed at a RET TD on his stats?

here is an article to explains the point breakdown for espn leagues

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Hi Folks,

Good Monday to you. The Robert Meachem play is obviously the hot topic among commissioners this morning as they work out how to score it.

I asked my friend Bill Davies to give us his opinion. Bill thinks more about commish stuff than any human I know. He put a lot of thought into this back when it was an issue with Keenan McCardell and I very much respect his opinion.

I asked him this morning to put something together for me and he did. I am very comfortable with his ruling here.

Thanks Bill.

J

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Joe Bryant

Owner - Footballguys.com




TRANSCRIPT FROM TODAY’S EMERGENCY HEARING ON THE

ROBERT MEACHEM FUMBLE RECOVERY TD



December 7, 2009




BAILIFF


“All rise. Court is in session. The Dishonorable Chief Injustice Bill Davies presiding.”




CHIEF INJUSTICE BILL DAVIES


Please be seated.




December 7th is a day that will go down in infamy.




(What’s that? Already taken? Dang it! OK, I’ll play it straight then.)





For those of you who don’t know me, I am FootballGuy’s answer to my real life neighbor, Honorable David S. Doty. Judge Doty, you may know, is the presiding U.S. District Court Judge on matters regarding the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement. While that may impress you, he walks in my shadow on all things fantasy football.




As a sitting Injustice for over a decade, I have seen a lot of things in my day. Every once in a while, you meet someone in court who is a product of the system. When they leave the courtroom after you have delivered their sentence, you think to yourself, “I’ll know I’ll see you again.” That happened yesterday in the Saints – Redskins game.




In this case, our subject is ROBERT MEACHEM’S FUMBLE RECOVERY FOR A TD. For those of you new to town, you might think this is a pretty special and unique situation. However, this situation has walked through this courtroom before – in 2003, when I was a Junior Judge. It was disguised then as the “KEENAN McCARDELL TD”. On that day, I thought we were facing an unprecedented matter, but found out later that this situation was in a prior Court as a result of a 1997 Week 11 TD by Kansas City Chief WR Danan Hughes. It likely occurred before then, too, but records are not readily available prior to 1997.




In the 2003 matter of the KEENAN McCARDELL, this Court issued a rather lengthy and complete decision:

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. It resulted in much discussion on message boards, in bar rooms and amongst friends. It was supported and ridiculed. But at the end of the day, it was ground in logic and withstood the test of time. A synopsis of the final decision can be found here:

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This Court, like most others, recognizes precedent. It looks at the conclusion previously reached and considers that decision in light of the current facts. The Court then determines if the previous conclusion can still be supported by the facts and logic and if that conclusion can also be applied to the current circumstances. (NOTE: Sometimes, over the course of 6 years, something new comes up that was unknown at the time of the original ruling.)




In this instance, the circumstances are identical to the KEENAN McCARDELL incident. Nothing new has come up and many other governing bodies have adopted this Court’s interpretation. As a result, the previous ruling stands.




THE DECISION


The Robert Meachem fumble recovery TD was an OFFENSIVE fumble recovery for a touchdown. It should not be treated as a defensive touchdown for purposes of team defense.




ADDENDUM


We need to recognize that this situation is rare – it happens about once every 6 years. It is not unheard of but it is uncommon. League management systems (like CBSSportsline.com, MyFantasyLeague.com, Fanball.com, etc…) are system driven – they have the ability to interface with the NFL boxscores and provide quick and accurate fantasy scores. However, once in a while, their systems do not recognize oddities like this.




The important thing here is to act in accordance to what your rules state. If all TDs are worth 6 points, then you should have 6 points awarded to Robert Meachem’s score for the week. You may need to add those points manually if your league management system does not do it for you. If your rules state specific TDs that are worth 6 points and offensive fumble recoveries are not one of them, then you should not count this TD.




If your rules permit Team Defense fumble recoveries for a TD as worth 6 points and your league management system awarded 6 points for this score, you may have to reduce that team’s score by 6 points. This is NOT a defensive TD.




GUIDING PRINCIPLE


Your league rules should be the basis for your decision. If your league management system scores a play inconsistent with your league rules, then your Commissioner should make a manual adjustment so that the recorded score is consistent with your league rules.




If you do not like the way your league rules handled this situation, then address it in the offseason – not now. Leagues should not be holding a vote to see how this matter should be resolved.