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Miles versus DiNardo

Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:07 am
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:07 am
I hear a lot of hate on Miles, and I am no fan of his by any margin, but its interesting that some people actually brought up DiNardo as a comparison when describing him.

One thing that I'll give Miles credit for was that when he realized the mistake he made on the defensive side of the ball (co-DCs and Earl Lane), he made the call to have them replaced, albeit quietly.

DiNardo refused to get rid of Tepper and it ended up sealing his fate. Our defense collapsed under his leadership, and DiNardo put friendship before his team. Once Watts left after 1998 and we had no offense, he made his second mistake, but the damage was done.

This season Miles again is in a tough position and needs to prove himself to be willing to put his team before friendship. He likely needs to get rid of Crowton, Studs, and it looks like McCarthy is all but gone for something fishy going on.

If he can prove again he's looking out for the program, than he may have a chance to regain many of the fans he's lost.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:12 am to
Yeah stud suck
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:15 am to
I agree. If he gets a new OC and next year the O comes out and lights it up all may be forgotten. But I have had my doubts since he lost to Tenn. with a 21 point lead at half time. Add in the poor decpline and the bad clock management and i just dont think he is cut out for the SEC.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:16 am to
Yeah, my only beef with Miles is that he looks like he took a lot of trouble makers in 2005 and 2006 when he didn't have too.

People kept giving him a pass on the OL play because Saban "left that cupboard empty" but instead of doing a better job recruiting in 2006, he just started moving defensive players over there, and the only thing that did was kill our DL depth.

Given he was planning to move Barksdale from DT to OL from the beginning (eventhough he told him he'd get his shot at DT), they should've picked up other DT prospects in that time.

Miles is also losing fans because the positions he's supposed to be a guru at is likely the worst unit on the team, or maybe its the DL, but imagine if a guy like Hitt was still on the DL and giving us that option to at least help out.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:19 am to
He lost me when he was hired. Not his fault, I never really liked the hire. He was brought in to be a CEO when we needed a coach. I am always a proponent of having your head coach be a real coach and not figurehead/time manager given the limit on the number of assistants you get.

Miles didn't fit that at all, and its sadly shown. He's done well given the circumstances, but there was no reason LSU shouldn't have been 11-0 going into the SEC CG in 2005 and 2007 given the talent and the ways we lost our games those years.
Posted by Mao
Member since Jun 2009
1256 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:24 am to
quote:

there was no reason LSU shouldn't have been 11-0 going into the SEC CG in 2005 and 2007

Losing football games is a valid reason.
Posted by SwineFlew
Member since Nov 2009
52 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:40 am to
Miles vs. DiNardo = NUTT

Posted by EllisD
Member since Feb 2009
888 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 4:25 am to
They're both average coaches that seem to be ok with putting mediocore teams on the field.
Posted by Tiger1955
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2007
677 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:09 pm to
Miles will always look better than DiNardo, because he had Saban's talent to start with, so he could win because Saban's player could overcome bad coaching. Now, with his players, Milesw can't win because they are not smart enough to overcome bad coaching. Miles players are dumber and less talented than Saban's players.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4950 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:17 pm to
DiNardo didn't put keep or hire anyone out of friendship. He kept people because he was stubborn and didn't want everyone else's opinion to count more than his. He flatly admitted this in his restaurant interview right after he was fired.
Posted by jesterJ
Near the Northern Lights
Member since Nov 2009
892 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:22 pm to
Respice, adspice, prospice; Amoto quaeramus seria ludo, Carpe diem L.M.
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2038 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:04 pm to
The day DiNardo opened his restaurant was the beginning of the end for him...He won a few, thought he had this LSU football thing figured out, thought he'd be around BR for a long time...how quickly things turned around on him.

Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Miles will always look better than DiNardo, because he had Saban's talent to start with,


Of course you conveniently forget that Saban won with DiNardo's tlent.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:12 pm to
He's right though. DiNardo had the least talent coming in and Saban had more, but much less than Miles. The fact is that Miles made the change last year despite having the NC the year before in his pocket to use.

That can be looked at two ways. Either he's too easily swayed by public opinion or he realized his job wasn't secured by just winning an NC. I tend to hope its the latter.
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:12 pm to
Here's a simple f@cking fact one had two losing seasons and one hasn't had any off
Posted by DA
Member since Sep 2007
16251 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

He's done well given the circumstances, but there was no reason LSU shouldn't have been 11-0 going into the SEC CG in 2005 and 2007 given the talent and the ways we lost our games those years.


I agree 100%.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77196 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Respice, adspice, prospice; Amoto quaeramus seria ludo, Carpe diem L.M.


+1,000,000
Posted by Ricohoc
Member since Nov 2009
257 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:28 pm to
Miles is only slightly better than Dinardo, but we'll never know.
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