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A thought on some of Miles' coaching faults

Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:03 am
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:03 am
I haven't played organized football since I was 9, but I do and have played other sports regularly.

In two sports I play still - tennis and basketball - I have a common theme when I lose to somebody I shouldn't or play them too close for comfort.

I tend to relax or get conservative when I'm winning. I also have a tendency to play down to people. I think it's a lack of killer instinct. It's not that I'm a bad or incompetent athlete, but I don't seem to have a desire to really beat the crap out of somebody.

I've watched Miles do this with teams over and over. When you're up by 2 scores and go soft then have a fluke play here or there, all of a sudden you're down and having to rally.

Miles only seems to find the killer instinct when he's about to get knocked out. Sometimes that's worked out beautifully. Other times ... not so much.
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:22 am to
Triumph-

That's one of the biggest reasons he has never been welcomed by Tiger fans. We want and deserve to be dominant.

I continue to play competitive sports. I want to thoroughly embarass every opponent I play. I am one of those people that if we are up 65-0, keep throwing the ball. It is not about making the other team feel good. Sportmanship can be shown after the game. Your sole goal is to thoroughly destroy whoever you play. Physically dominate them.

Now running up the score aside, certain coaches have that killer instinct. You have to have it certainly to go undefeated in the SEC. It so difficult unless you have it. Urban & Saban are known to be jerks because of this.

I would welcome a jerk that has that mentality.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
82995 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:22 am to
complacency has put this program on its arse, and that starts all the way at the top.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:30 am to
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I continue to play competitive sports. I want to thoroughly embarass every opponent I play. I am one of those people that if we are up 65-0, keep throwing the ball. It is not about making the other team feel good. Sportmanship can be shown after the game. Your sole goal is to thoroughly destroy whoever you play. Physically dominate them.


... exactly

It's why I'd make a shitty head coach (among others).
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:37 am to
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complacency has put this program on its arse, and that starts all the way at the top


That's not my point - I don't necessarily think it's complacency.

It's the in-game side of things. I don't doubt Miles' recruiting or football knowledge. I might even put him in the same elite category as other coaches in that arena.

Overall, I think his game preparation is good to great. He seems to make good halftime adjustments too.

Situationally, in real time, he seems to trip up in either play calling or strategy. The best time for LSU to screw up is in the first half, because Miles seems to be able to fix that at halftime. When they start screwing up in the second half, the wheels seem to come off.

It seems like if his game plan is a knockout, he does well. Otherwise, the assault gets stalled and he gets pinned down with nowhere to go and few options.
This post was edited on 11/25/09 at 10:39 am
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:42 am to
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We want and deserve to be dominant.


deserve??
Posted by Germano Tiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2003
1814 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:46 am to
I think part of this may be Miles, part may be the LSU players (both from a personnel and attitude standpoint). Even under the great warlord Nick Saban, we often struggled to be dominant.

The attitude is the responsibility of the coach, and even Saban admitted he often struggled to get LSU's attitude in the right place (e.g. Ole Miss in '01, Florida in '03, and much of the 2004 season if you read his book)


I do think it takes good QB play to be able to do that more often. As well as any defense can play, if you don't keep putting up points, the opposing team grows more confident. Go back and look at the 2004 team under Nick Saban. We were not "dominant" because our QB play was poor. Oregon St, Auburn, Florida, Troy...these were games we could have run away with, but the offense was in neutral. This year is very similar.

We've certainly had our moments under Miles. Bowl games, the VTech game, Arizona game, '05 at Ole Miss, '06 vs Alabama, even this year's Auburn game were games, to name a few, when Miles' team walked onto the field and made the opponent wish they had never shown up.
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 11/25/09 at 10:54 am to
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deserve??


If you pay Les Miles more than every other coach besides:

Pete Carroll (7 straight conf. titles)
Bob Stoops (Dominated big 12 landscape as far as championships)
Urban Meyer (could get his 3rd national title in 4 years)
Nick Saban (Going for his second straight West title. Has Alabama undefeated in SEC play for the second straight year)

There can only be one national champion, but that is dominant.
You better perform equally if you are paid in the same echelon.
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