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So, now LSU has 2 mind-fricked QBs?
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 10/15/09 at 10:29 pm
Lee is mind-fricked because he couldn't complete a pass to his own team.
Jefferson is mind-fricked because Miles has brainwashed the kid into not making a mistake nor taking a chance (AKA make plays).
This sums it all up in my opinion. Chickenshit Babying Philosophy
kiss my arse if it's been discusssed
Jefferson is mind-fricked because Miles has brainwashed the kid into not making a mistake nor taking a chance (AKA make plays).
This sums it all up in my opinion. Chickenshit Babying Philosophy
quote:
On Tuesday, Jefferson told reporters he thinks he needs to take more chances after looking at his stats. Miles made a slight correction to that.
"I don't know if chances is exactly the word I'd want to use," Miles said. "I think he means to throw the ball down the field maybe a little more, and make sure it's a timely, wise decision."
kiss my arse if it's been discusssed
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Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:13 pm to Dodd
My thoughts exactly. JL was crucified by fans last year with the pick 6's. JJ is prob scared of the same happening to him. A sack on 4th down may as well be an interception.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:15 pm to Dodd
It's clearly visible that Jefferson is taking too much time to get his throws out. If that's because he can't make the downfield read or won't, we don't know.
But this QB development saga may last much longer than simply this season.
But this QB development saga may last much longer than simply this season.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:21 pm to TriangleTiger
I have no doubt that JJ has the potential to be a great QB, recent history (Georgia Tech game last year) points to that... Just needs confidence, which I'm not convinced that the coaching staff is giving him or letting him get through in game experience
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:23 pm to TriangleTiger
Ok, reality check 101. Jefferson is completing 63% of his passes with 7 TDs and 3 INTs. The main stat against him is the 18 sacks in 6 games, but 5 of those came against the #1 team in the nation. And the OL has played poorly so far this year.
5-1 so far....don't panic....breath in and out!
5-1 so far....don't panic....breath in and out!
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:31 pm to Tomm
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63% of his passes with 7 TDs and 3 INTs. The main stat against him is the 18 sacks in 6 games
62.8% of his passes, and only 1,016 yards in 6 games. Over the course of his career.. 218 attempts, 27 sacks.. sacked 12.4% of the time he drops back. That is -not- good.
For comparison:
J. Lee was sacked 3% of the time
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:32 pm to Tomm
No panic, none at all. I'm very happy at 5-1, 6-0 would have been great, but 5-1 
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:34 pm to Tomm
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18 sacks in 6 games
Didn't Georgia get him 5 times as well?
10 sacks in 2 games against equal competition? Makes me worry.
That said, 5-1 this far and I'm calling for 5-1 to finish the season.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:35 pm to bmy
quote:
62.8% of his passes, and only 1,016 yards in 6 games. Over the course of his career.. 218 attempts, 27 sacks.. sacked 12.4% of the time he drops back. That is -not- good.
For comparison:
J. Lee was sacked 3% of the time
How many times did JJ get sacked against Georgia Tech? I know, different year, different team...
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:38 pm to TriangleTiger
something people don't think about when calling for Lee is unless he comes in for an injured JJ he will be playing it safe as well.
basically JJ/coaches playing it so safe has really put us in a bad spot.
basically JJ/coaches playing it so safe has really put us in a bad spot.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:50 pm to Dodd
lee threw for 1800 yards last year. JJ is on pace to eclipse that FWIW. With that said, i agree the mittens need to come off and we need to throw down. turn him loose or we will be in trouble from this point forward with our toughest competition yet to come on the defensive side.
NS will have no mercy on that team. that you can count on. That Bama D is brilliantand a head better that FLA IMO.
NS will have no mercy on that team. that you can count on. That Bama D is brilliantand a head better that FLA IMO.
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:52 pm to Jaketigger
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lee threw for 1800 yards last year. JJ is on pace to eclipse that FWIW
Jarrett Lee was splitting time with another QB for most of that season, FWIW
Posted on 10/15/09 at 11:56 pm to chilge1
Correct, and I am not one to take up for Lee by any stretch, but Lee did not start until game 4 and didn't play in the last 2 which Jefferson started. So, Lee was not the main QB in 5 of the 13 games. Having said that, what did it "yell to you" that J. Lee a scholarship player was beaten out at QB by Andrew Hatch who came to LSU as a walkon and had a grand total of 1 major college offer out of HS...Crowton at BYU offered Hatch a scholarship.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 12:01 am to Tomm
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Crowton at BYU offered Hatch a scholarship.
I have been yelled at too many times on here about crowton. never liked the guy and think he is a one trck pony that is always caught-up with by year 3...
Posted on 10/16/09 at 2:50 am to Dodd
QB is the most difficult position to learn in college football. being an sec qb is even tougher. i trust our coaches to know more than us fans on what our guys need to do to improve. they see them perform every day and they are the pros. that being said, mayber we are "over sheltering" JJ a bit, but what the hell does he mean when he says he needs to take more chances? throwing into double and triple coverages; that's taking more chances. somewhere along the line, JJ needs to get comfortable and confident. it could happen any time. when it does, i think his performance will improve dramatically. if hes mind-fricked, he ain't the man for the job.
Posted on 10/16/09 at 3:08 am to TriangleTiger
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A sack on 4th down may as well be an interception.
OK, then you can say "I told you so" in 2035.
I mean, seriously, how many 4th-down sacks does JJ have in his 8 starts? Does he have 16, as in the number of picks J. Lee had in his 8 starts?
Posted on 10/16/09 at 3:42 am to chilge1
quote:
Jarrett Lee was splitting time with another QB for most of that season, FWIW
Yeah, but Lee took over in the Auburn win in Game 3 when Hatch got hurt, started the next 8 (when Hatch threw a mere 8 passes in the next 4 games combined, or 4 more than K. Williams & B. Dalfrey threw in 2 games).
Lee lasted until the 2nd qtr. in Week 11 vs. Ole Miss, and JJ went it alone for the last game and the bowl win.
All told, Lee attempted 269 passes, Jefferson 73 and Hatch 45. Not trying to be a jerk, just thought that was a pretty big disparity...
Posted on 10/16/09 at 3:54 am to Tomm
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Crowton at BYU offered Hatch a scholarship
Well Hatch is both Mormon and smart. That are two of the typically very important criteria to attend/play for BYU.
I bet if Miles put in Shep and let him loose he wouldn't be scared.
This post was edited on 10/16/09 at 3:56 am
Posted on 10/16/09 at 3:55 am to Dodd
Hey, I'm glad you posted that link. Must have just missed it...
Following was encouraging:
"Freshman quarterback Russell Shepard, who missed Tuesday's workout because he was sick, returned. Miles said Shepard was good to go for the weekend and for the Auburn game Oct. 24."
Obviously, we can hardly trust Miles all the time, but the fact that he even addressed Shepard's status (and availability for the Auburn game) is at least interesting...
Following was encouraging:
"Freshman quarterback Russell Shepard, who missed Tuesday's workout because he was sick, returned. Miles said Shepard was good to go for the weekend and for the Auburn game Oct. 24."
Obviously, we can hardly trust Miles all the time, but the fact that he even addressed Shepard's status (and availability for the Auburn game) is at least interesting...
Posted on 10/16/09 at 7:02 am to Tomm
quote:
what did it "yell to you" that J. Lee a scholarship player was beaten out at QB by Andrew Hatch who came to LSU as a walkon
quote:
what did it "yell to you" that J. Lee a scholarship player was beaten out at QB by Andrew Hatch who came to LSU as a walkon
It tells me that neither of those guys were ready to be the starter. But we all know what happened there. Lee was the better quarterback, regardless of the picks.
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