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Eliminate the power I and option for a start
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:19 pm
Just ELIMINATE two calls for a start!
Take away the predictable play-calling with regard to the power I and that god-awful option that obviously has every d-coordinator we face bamboozled and substitute those calls with sweeps, quick outs, draws, counters, screens, the deep ball, roll-outs, play-action pass, and even the 6.2 yards per carry "wildcat."
What do you think TigerNation - would we still sit on our thrones and be able to predict the next result from Crowton's genius.
Take away the predictable play-calling with regard to the power I and that god-awful option that obviously has every d-coordinator we face bamboozled and substitute those calls with sweeps, quick outs, draws, counters, screens, the deep ball, roll-outs, play-action pass, and even the 6.2 yards per carry "wildcat."
What do you think TigerNation - would we still sit on our thrones and be able to predict the next result from Crowton's genius.
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:20 pm to lsugumbeaux
i dont have a problem if they want the power I to be the primary offense
i do have a problem with doing all these different formations and schemes when we have nothing safe to fall back on
pick a system, do that system, and get good at that system
i do have a problem with doing all these different formations and schemes when we have nothing safe to fall back on
pick a system, do that system, and get good at that system
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:25 pm to DBG
That's half our plays.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:27 pm to DBG
my friend's girlfriend even asked "why do they run that play(the option), it doesn't work" 
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:30 pm to lsugumbeaux
A simple I-pro set is all LSU needs to run to score points on any opponent this year. The way the offense is currently playing, there is absolutely nothing LSU can do better out of a 4-WR shotgun set.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:33 pm to Shooter
Exactly. We are flushing plays instead of using more suitable plays for down and distance, keeping the defense off-balance, etc.
Those two calls are producing no positive results. Therefore, substitue for other calls.
If two ingredients contribute to your dish failing taste tests, change the recipe.
Those two calls are producing no positive results. Therefore, substitue for other calls.
If two ingredients contribute to your dish failing taste tests, change the recipe.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:37 pm to lsugumbeaux
Look, if the only time you're going to run the power-I is to run dive plays up the middle on 3rd and 2, then yeah, maybe you shouldn't do that. But it's LSU best formation for regular plays, like for instance, on 1st and 10.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:38 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:
A simple I-pro set is all LSU needs to run to score points on any opponent this year. The way the offense is currently playing, there
I don't know, you think our passing/receiving threat isn't scaring the other defenses when line up all those receivers?
We could line up 20 of them and JJ is only going to give the first one a look anyway before he tucks and runs.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:39 pm to USMCTiger03
Why have 4 receivers when you know you're only going to look at 1 of them anyway?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:41 pm to lsugumbeaux
Eliminate stupid coacing and get back to fundamental football. It's not that complicated unless you make too much money doing it.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:43 pm to lsugumbeaux
Every time somebody claims they can predict the play that a team is going to call, tell them to go actually try and do it for a game. Bet them $100 if you know the person and you can be there with them. It's easy money.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:45 pm to Doc Fenton
Exacto. Again. And that is why our offense is so predictable. Can you remember a play action pass on first and ten out of the I. No. We give it to scott and he picks up 1-2. NOW, here we go. Defensive coordinators understand down and distance. Defenses narrow and scope our already conservative approach.
In the Miss. State game, JJ was 6-8 I believe throwing on first down for over 100 yards. Did we watch that tape?
In the Miss. State game, JJ was 6-8 I believe throwing on first down for over 100 yards. Did we watch that tape?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:46 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:Yeah, I think it's safe to say the defenses have figured this one out.
Why have 4 receivers when you know you're only going to look at 1 of them anyway?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:51 pm to lsugumbeaux
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Can you remember a play action pass on first and ten out of the I.
As a matter of fact, I can. 1st and 10 from the LSU 42, on LSU's first play of the 3rd quarter against MSU: LINK. 58-yard TD pass to LaFell.
Also, I think JJ's 26-yard completion to LaFell in the 2nd quarter ( LINK) on 1st and 10 from the LSU 31 against UF was also a play action out of the power-I, although I can't remember for sure.
Obviously, these plays were working too well to try them again...
EDIT: The completion against UF was actually out of a shotgun with Scott lined up behind JJ, but at least it was a legitimate play action throw (i.e., it really looked like Scott was going to run left, and so JJ was naturally able to drop back with ease with nobody around him), which is rare, and at least there was a TE on the play.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:53 pm to Doc Fenton
Thanks for the specificity....but do you see what I am saying....where does that go?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:55 pm to lsugumbeaux
Yeah, I know what you're saying. Such plays are too dangerous for LSU...
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:00 pm to Doc Fenton
I am afraid that is what it has come down too. We are so afraid of making mistakes, we have limited our team's potential. We will never win championships with that mentality.....we won't play shep because he MIGHT fumble. That is what is so frustrating.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:07 pm to lsugumbeaux
I think we need to get rid of the looking back to the sideline crap. Or if your gonna do the whole check with me stuff then don't huddle before the play. Jefferson has to hurry every snap and the defense can just pin their ears back and not worry about a snap count
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:12 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Absolutely. this cool offensive feature is used by pro-style systems(high-octane offenses). I never see it used with strong I formations. It doesn't fit our overall scheme. It has got to go.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:16 pm to lsugumbeaux
the looking back to the sideline crap is too cutting edge... we need to go back to Big Ten ball like Saban.
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