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Are Our Blue Chip Recruiting Classes Being Coached Up?
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:16 pm
It's a question to ponder and be honest about.
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Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:17 pm to Green Ram 2
No but then again we just revamped the staff so it'll take time.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:19 pm to Srbtiger06
Well Chad Jones was a 5 star recruit according to Rivals and he was a key factor in the Omaha Success and CWS Championship. He also had the best slider and fast ball of all left handers in the 2006 recruiting class.
This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:20 pm to Green Ram 2
quote:Yes because it hasnt been pondered in the ground yet....
Are Our Blue Chip Recruiting Classes Being Coached Up?
It's a question to ponder and be honest about.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:23 pm to Cadello
Al Woods sez NO
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:29 pm to Green Ram 2
In many positions I believe that to be the case. Unfortunately, I feel like the QB progression is a sink or swim mentality. Late in the season last year when JJ said he didn't know alot of the playbook it bothered me a little. As a freshman I know he isn't expected to cure cancer, but the playbook he should be pretty familiar with. I know it isn't the playstation version, but if your on a football scholly, that could be some handy dandy information.
This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:40 pm to TigerPimpNationTrank
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Al Woods sez NO
Is he Chad Jones' brother?
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:45 pm to Green Ram 2
al woods is what he is. another 1a player who was overated.we have good defense coaches.only coaches i would be suspect about is stud and joe.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 9:54 pm to Green Ram 2
Depends on how you look at it. I think receiver has definitely been coached up in some areas if you look at our performing recruits. Tight End isn't a bad position that has been performing.
Both Keiland Williams and Scott have shown very capable, and Keiland's blocking skills have definitely been improved.
QB is a crapshoot. Look at Kyle Wright? He was the #1 QB his senior year of high school, and utterly sucked. JJ is young. Lee is very young. They haven't had the ability to learn like most QBs in top do, although I think that Crowton is not a very good QB coach. Amazing OC, but QB coaching is a weakness for him.
DBs is a tough one, since it was obvious that Mallory's deficiencies were covered up by Pellini's coaching. Jones will improve this year and is showing improvement. CB looks strong.
LBer is a solid point to improved play and coaching. Are they perfect? No, but greatly improved from last year.
DL has honestly taken a big hit largely because Earl Lane sucked as a coach. Al Woods didn't fit our system, and lack of technique really started to show last year.
In the end, if Miles was going to hire and offensive coach/recruiting coordinator to replace Henson, I'd have rathered a QB coach instead of TE coach.
All in all, some positions are being coached up, while others not so much. The DL coaching (or lack of it) really has shown its negative effects with the DL.
Both Keiland Williams and Scott have shown very capable, and Keiland's blocking skills have definitely been improved.
QB is a crapshoot. Look at Kyle Wright? He was the #1 QB his senior year of high school, and utterly sucked. JJ is young. Lee is very young. They haven't had the ability to learn like most QBs in top do, although I think that Crowton is not a very good QB coach. Amazing OC, but QB coaching is a weakness for him.
DBs is a tough one, since it was obvious that Mallory's deficiencies were covered up by Pellini's coaching. Jones will improve this year and is showing improvement. CB looks strong.
LBer is a solid point to improved play and coaching. Are they perfect? No, but greatly improved from last year.
DL has honestly taken a big hit largely because Earl Lane sucked as a coach. Al Woods didn't fit our system, and lack of technique really started to show last year.
In the end, if Miles was going to hire and offensive coach/recruiting coordinator to replace Henson, I'd have rathered a QB coach instead of TE coach.
All in all, some positions are being coached up, while others not so much. The DL coaching (or lack of it) really has shown its negative effects with the DL.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 6:12 am to LSU FREAK
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As a freshman I know he isn't expected to cure cancer, but the playbook he should be pretty familiar with.
he was the 4th string QB going into the season and was running scout team for the majority of it. Most true freshman QB's aren't going to know the whole playbook during their 1st season
Crowton said in 2007 he didn't want to fully install his offense because it couldn't be learned in a year
This post was edited on 9/22/09 at 6:13 am
Posted on 9/22/09 at 8:26 am to Green Ram 2
LSU has the best record in the SEC over the past six seasons. How can the answer be anything but yes. Unless, you are worried about something other than wins or Championships. Maybe we should just worry about stats, and forget about the wins.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 8:50 am to Peachtree Tiger
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Are Our Blue Chip Recruiting Classes Being Coached Up?
LSU has the best record in the SEC over the past six seasons. How can the answer be anything but yes. Unless, you are worried about something other than wins or Championships. Maybe we should just worry about stats, and forget about the wins.
Great post! Like the OP would know even if he was at practice which he isn't.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 8:55 am to Bert Lyons 716
A good way to answer that question is to ask yourself if our entire coaching staff went to another school like TCU, Cincy or Boise State (Schools that win without bluechip talent) would those teams be as good as the are currently?
I personally think not.
I think LSU has, at best, an average overall coaching staff by current SEC standards. Moreover, you cannot compare our coaching staff with that of Bama and Florida...it is night and day difference and it will continue to show on the field.
I personally think not.
I think LSU has, at best, an average overall coaching staff by current SEC standards. Moreover, you cannot compare our coaching staff with that of Bama and Florida...it is night and day difference and it will continue to show on the field.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:08 am to Green Ram 2
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Are Our Blue Chip Recruiting Classes Being Coached Up?
Considering the players are amatures and the coaches are highly successful professionals-who have excelled in their profession for decades-who do you think is to blame for the less than steller performance on the field this year?
When our QB throws wild and inaccurate passes, can't find wide open receivers, or throws drive killing interceptions, who's fault is that?
When our defensive players miss tackles, who's fault is that?
When our players act like thugs and get kicked off the team, who's fault is that?
When you see players who are in the correct position and make great plays all over the field as Patrick Peterson does, who's fault is that?
When a 5th year senior QB like Flynn produces LSU's highest scoring offense in LSU history, who's fault is that?
After all this pondering, what are your answers?
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:23 am to Bad Cat
I think the question is who determines what is or is not a blue chip player? For every Al Woods there is a Jacob Hester. There is a reason why these guys work for a recruiting service and are not evaluating talent for a school or the nfl....
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:29 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
A good way to answer that question is to ask yourself if our entire coaching staff went to another school like TCU, Cincy or Boise State (Schools that win without bluechip talent) would those teams be as good as the are currently?
I personally think not.
I think LSU has, at best, an average overall coaching staff by current SEC standards. Moreover, you cannot compare our coaching staff with that of Bama and Florida...it is night and day difference and it will continue to show on the field.
What have Bama's coaches done? Hell,half leave every year.
Please explain how they are better.
What would Meyer's record have been last yr if Tebow had been kicked off of the team?
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:31 am to Green Ram 2
so you are questioning the quality of our asst. coaches. what credentials do you present? to be honest, which was what you specified in your thread, most if not all of the people on here questioning our coaches coaching ability don't know shtie from shinola about coaching.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:34 am to Green Ram 2
A great example of recuits not being "coached up" would be Notre Dame, and I believe we are far from that.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 9:44 am to Bert Lyons 716
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What have Bama's coaches done? Hell,half leave every year.
Please explain how they are better.
What would Meyer's record have been last yr if Tebow had been kicked off of the team?
It starts at the top and whether you like it or not, or are honest enough to admit it, Saban is a better head coach than Miles. People on this board like to pretend this is not the case, yet year before last when rumors surfaced that Saban may have been coming back if Miles went to UM, the same individuals were as giddy as little school girls.
Saban, unlike Miles, essentially functions as a coordinator as well. Saban, for all intents and purposes is the defensive coordinator for Bama. I would take his expertise over Chavis. Let us not forget that Chavis was fired from his last job in the SEC. I am not saying he is all bad, but he defenses at UT were lit up several times over the last several years.
You have Miles, the offensive line guru her at LSU who consistently has underachieving o-lines. The only thing he is supposed to be an expert at is the weakest position on this year's team. When have you seen a Saban coached team when the defense was the weakest link? Maybe once and that was his first year at LSU.
As to Meyer, he won a national title with Chris Leak as the starter. Leak is currently managing a Wendy's in Charlotte (probably). Meyer has won at every level he has coached. Alex Smith, a complete bust, looked so good under Meyer that he was the #1 overall pick in the NFL.
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