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Loston's "Phantom" Hand Injury
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:40 am
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:40 am
Another crafty Les Miles move designed to get Loston a medical redshirt, just in case the clearinghouse doesn't come through? Would there be any advantage to this? Wouldn't this get Loston an extra year w/o having to use a redshirt? If he's going to play anyway because of talent, would the redshirt even be necessary?
Miles may think two chess moves ahead of everyone else. Discuss.
On Monday, Loston practiced with bare hands, showing no ill effects of any injury. As the day wore on, other LSU players said he spent more time standing with coaches and watching than participating.
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Miles may think two chess moves ahead of everyone else. Discuss.
On Monday, Loston practiced with bare hands, showing no ill effects of any injury. As the day wore on, other LSU players said he spent more time standing with coaches and watching than participating.
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Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:44 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 9:01 am
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:46 am to Tiger_n_ATL
it was an odd sitation for sure. miles never said he had a wrist injury so who knows. i'm just glad he made it.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:47 am to outsideroach
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Can you give someone a medical redshirt if they arent cleared to enroll?
No, I don't think so, but thinking maybe he was setting it up so that it would seem natural, when Loston was finally cleared if it was too late, for example.
Kind of like how he was talking about JJ's "injury" last year and the fact that they were going to medical redshirt him, then Hatch gets hurt and the next thing we know the guy is our starting QB.
This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 8:48 am
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:48 am to Tiger_n_ATL
I would not want to play poker with Les.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:48 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Miles may think two chess moves ahead of everyone else. Discuss.
a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
smart move by miles IMO
just like in politics, in you repeat a lie over and over, sooner or later, people are going to start believing it.
he was preparing to give out a redshirt, if he had to.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:48 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 9:01 am
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:49 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Kind of like how he was talking about JJ's "injury" last year and the fact that they were going to medical redshirt him, then Hatch gets hurt and the next thing we know the guy is our starting QB.
remember when he was "hurt" during the miss st game?
Les was preparing for a RS season for JJ.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:49 am to Tiger_n_ATL
I don't know how you can say that,Miles said he didn't know about it in one interview,and down-played it in another.Many posts about Miles is covering it up and his "coach-speak" with injuries(how he always down-plays them). Your strategy may be right(I doubt it),and I think a post-season application for a Med-red would be a total waist with Loston(a three year player).Nice use of preseason energy though.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:50 am to Tiger_n_ATL
if so, do you think posting about it on a message board is a good idea ?
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:51 am to CamdenTiger
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Miles said he didn't know about it in one interview,and down-played it in another.
yep, the wrist injury rumor never came from miles
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:52 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 8:54 am
Posted on 8/25/09 at 8:53 am to RummelTiger
Also a bush in the hand is worth 2 in the bar! 
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:00 am to cajunjj
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Also a bush in the hand is worth 2 in the bar!
also a good point
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:02 am to Zilla
quote:Yes, since he's already been cleared.
if so, do you think posting about it on a message board is a good idea ?
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:02 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Another crafty Les Miles move designed to get Loston a medical redshirt, just in case the clearinghouse doesn't come through? Would there be any advantage to this? Wouldn't this get Loston an extra year w/o having to use a redshirt? If he's going to play anyway because of talent, would the redshirt even be necessary?
Miles may think two chess moves ahead of everyone else. Discuss.
Loston himself talked about the injury to TSD. Miles (as he is wont to do) never acknowledged it.
I don't think Miles was thinking that far ahead.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:07 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Another crafty Les Miles move designed to get Loston a medical redshirt, just in case the clearinghouse doesn't come through? Would there be any advantage to this? Wouldn't this get Loston an extra year w/o having to use a redshirt? If he's going to play anyway because of talent, would the redshirt even be necessary?
If he didn't get thru the Clearinghouse, he wouldn't be on the team, he wouldn't have a scholarship, and redshirting would be irrelevant. If he does have an injury, he could play early and if things didn't work out, he could then get a medical redshirt if he got the surgery. However, I don't see any advantage by concealing it. You have 5 years to play 4, so it doesn't get you an extra year, but if he gets the medical redshirt this year and he is unfortunate to be badly injured in the future, it may set him up for a possible extra hardship year.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:12 am to Indiana Tiger
quote:Yes, but my point was that he did clear the clearinghouse, albeit too late to participate in practice and not play this year. Buying him an extra 'phantom' year.
If he didn't get thru the Clearinghouse, he wouldn't be on the team, he wouldn't have a scholarship, and redshirting would be irrelevant
quote:Probably this, although I'm not sure if the injury is really an "injury".
If he does have an injury, he could play early and if things didn't work out, he could then get a medical redshirt if he got the surgery.
quote:This...see Charles Alexander and Kirston Pittman.
However, I don't see any advantage by concealing it. You have 5 years to play 4, so it doesn't get you an extra year, but if he gets the medical redshirt this year and he is unfortunate to be badly injured in the future, it may set him up for a possible extra hardship year.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:25 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Yes, but my point was that he did clear the clearinghouse, albeit too late to participate in practice and not play this year. Buying him an extra 'phantom' year.
My point is that there really isn't a phantom year.
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Probably this, although I'm not sure if the injury is really an "injury".
The redshirting rules state that if you play 1 down, you can't redshirt. However, I acknowledge that many freshmen seem to get some mysterious injury that qualify them for a medical redshirt that upper classmen wouldn't get. These type of decisions have to be made fairly early and after limited playing time. But hardship waivers (i.e. the granting of a 6th year) are scrutinized. Athletes don't get these unless they miss 2 years due to real injuries like Alexander and Pittman. I think Loston would have to have surgery to qualify for this. The vicious hangnail probably isn't enough.
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:32 am to Indiana Tiger
I follow you Indiana.
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