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re: LSU needs to rebuild its D-line

Posted on 8/16/09 at 11:13 am to
Posted by SOL
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 11:13 am to
I don't think I would call Alem,Levingston, Woods, Alexander,and Nevis young, maybe not veterans, but they've got a couple of seasons under their belt. As I recall most of this group were 4 stars. They just need good coaching. Maybe the guy was referring to Hicks, Montgomery, Downs or Davenport when he used the term "young".


I still believe coaching was the biggest problem on the D last year. This season should prove out this statement.

We can win some games this year if we limit the opposition to 2 or 3 touchdowns.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 11:34 am to
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I don't think I would call Alem,Levingston, Woods, Alexander,and Nevis young, maybe not veterans, but they've got a couple of seasons under their belt.



Not young in the slightest. Of the five, 2 are JRs and 3 are SRs(including one who's about 30-years-old). And they're pretty experienced, too. They've all played a lot besides Woods. It's the 2nd string that is young and inexperienced.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 12:22 pm
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 11:39 am to
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i dont really know what to make about either Georgia boy really. They're both big and can run well, but sometimes they look good and sometimes they looked like shite. We'll know for sure now that they actually have a LB coach/DC that is not a retard.


I agree with all this but it's fair to say that they were never more than average recruits by upper-tier SEC teams standards... and they have only played "solid" at best with some flashes

I agree Riley is the more complete of the two, although Shepp might have more upside IMO

The thing I like is that Chavis wanted both of them out of Stone Mountain High when he was at Tennessee, so it's encouraging that they are his kind of LBs ..you would figure he'll get their best this year..whatever that can be
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 11:46 am to
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The San Francisco 49ers selected defensive tackle Ricky Jean-Francois in the seventh round of the recent draft. The Carolina Panthers signed defensive tackle Marlon Favorite to a free-agent contract, and LSU reserve defensive end Tremaine Johnson signed with the Minnesota Vikings.

Defensive end Kirston Pittman signed a free-agent contract with the St. Louis Rams but was released before training camp started.


no real impact as far as these guys are concerned...
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 11:48 am to
Inexperienced is a better word for our front 4 starters...but from the looks of it our 2-deep may have a couple of true freshmen, as well.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:01 pm to
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we just don't recruit well there ..Ali was a great undersized college LB, and Darry showed flashes of brilliance as a Soph - then progressively got worse when he ran through some injuries
didnt lsu win a nat. title with this unit.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:08 pm to
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didnt lsu win a nat. title with this unit


Some forget..........
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:08 pm to
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didnt lsu win a nat. title with this unit.


and FL won a national title last year without a RB

what's your point?
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:09 pm to
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The thing I like is that Chavis wanted both of them out of Stone Mountain High when he was at Tennessee, so it's encouraging that they are his kind of LBs ..you would figure he'll get their best this year..whatever that can
they did not go to stone mountain high. stephenson high and i think riley is from ellenwood ga and shep is from stone mountain ga.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 12:12 pm
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:12 pm to
my point is you dont know shite
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:20 pm to
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they did not go to stone mountain high. stephenson high and i think riley is from ellenwood ga and shep is from stone mountain ga.


sorry, both are from Stone Mountain and played on the same team with Marcus Ball. It was Stephenson High in Stone Mountain
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:21 pm to
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my point is you dont know shite


the Ravens and Bucs have won Super Bowls without good QBs, what's your point?
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:29 pm to
so your saying lsu hasnt had good line backers because ther not in the nfl.i dont agree, and i think our lbs are a strong part of this def. this year as it was in 07.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:32 pm to
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sorry, both are from Stone Mountain and played on the same team with Marcus Ball. It was Stephenson High in Stone Mountain
they played at stephenson high.not stone mountain high.perry riley hometown ellenwood ga-shep hometown stone mt. ga
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 12:35 pm
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:36 pm to
I said Ali was a good college LB ...Baker might be a college LB ..Mingo will too most likely

ILB is where I have a beef and that is a position we never get a guy who has size and can be a good player in the middle ..like I said, those guys who have that size and could be good wind up being turned into big RBs in Louisiana high school ball, like Scott and Hester, etc

my point is that you can win championships without great players at EVERY position... many teams have done it on many levels ...no team is perfect. But when a program like LSU has not been able to recruit a solid MLB consistently in the last dozen or more years that jumps out at you
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:36 pm to
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they played at stephenson high.not stone mountain high.perry riley hometown ellenwood ga-shep hometown stone mt. ga


which is what I came back and said ..which has nothing to do with the point...
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:43 pm to
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Chavis wanted both of them out of Stone Mountain High when he
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:44 pm to
I thought that was the best you had

you are as irrelevant as the grammar police
Posted by Peachtree Tiger
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:51 pm to
D-line recruiting suffered under Dunbar, which is one of the reasons he is no longer here.
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:52 pm to
Dunbar?
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