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1930's again?

Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:47 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56749 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 11:47 am

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As you can see, today’s bear market is mirroring that of the ‘30s almost to perfection. Indeed, the correlation between the two charts is an incredible 0.8, meaning it’s 4/5ths perfect. In finance, you’re lucky if you get a correlation above 0.6. (gold and the dollar are only 0.28 inversely correlated). A 0.8 correlation is virtually unheard of. But that’s exactly how closely today’s market is mirroring that of the ‘30s.

I can’t take full credit for this insight. Ron Coby, an investment manager at Coby Lamson in Oregon, first started pointing out the similarities between this market and that of 1929 back in February ’09. No one wanted to listen to him then.

They’re listening now.

Coby notes that from October 29, 1929 until November 13, 1929, the stock market collapsed 49% (2008's was 52%). Ron points out that the market then staged a 155-day rally of 50%. Today’s rally (starting in March ’09) has lasted 150 days and the market is up an average of 50% (average of Nasdaq, DJIA, and S&P 500).

Unfortunately for the bulls today, the 1929 market then rolled over and collapsed another 70%. “Bottom callers” INCLUDING legends like Jesse Livermore, Benjamin Graham and others bought ALL THE WAY DOWN, losing entire fortunes.


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Posted by acadiana
Member since Jul 2008
110 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 12:19 pm to
ok im scared, what should i do buy porkbellies?
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:17 pm to

'I can’t take full credit for this insight. Ron Coby, an investment manager at Coby Lamson in Oregon, first started pointing out the similarities between this market and that of 1929 back in February ’09. No one wanted to listen to him then.

They’re listening now.'

Several sites have commented on the tracking of the Great Depression era stk mkt and that of the current financial crisis. Bill Bonner at the Daily Reckoning has noted that a rebound of the Dow to about the 10,300 level would be a near retrace of the 29 crash/first rebound.

The psychological effect of the near-trace might cause some actual effect.
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
16019 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:24 pm to
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The psychological effect of the near-trace might cause some actual effect.

In a good way or bad way?
Posted by acadiana
Member since Jul 2008
110 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:26 pm to
Ok then so for a guy like me who's not an economics student, just simply a guy who puts a couple a grand a month into a defered comp program should do what??

Stop depositing and invest or buy what?

Gold?
Land?
Condiments?
Bullets?
Guns?

Give it to me in simple terms.
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 1:33 pm to

'In a good way or bad way?'

I don't know. Some prognosticators have claimed that a certain percentage bull rebound in a bear mkt is predictable and is followed by a larger and more severe mkt dive.

I don't follow the stk mkts enough to know and I really don't have much reason to care. I do think that if the Fed stops QE that the stk mkt will be negatively effected. Also, recently there have been comments that the VIX is factoring in a mkt slide...I don't know if that is true either.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26705 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Bullets?
Guns?
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