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USA vs. Italy Prematch thoughts
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:00 pm
I am bored and wish to start a pregame thread way too early.
Who will Bob put in the other central mid role?
What formation should the Yanks employ?
You know how I know Rossi is ghey?
Rossi, how bad will we lacerate him?
How bad will our defense be lacerated?
Can we capitalize on Italy's defensive brand of footy?
Who will Bob put in the other central mid role?
What formation should the Yanks employ?
You know how I know Rossi is ghey?
Rossi, how bad will we lacerate him?
How bad will our defense be lacerated?
Can we capitalize on Italy's defensive brand of footy?
This post was edited on 6/13/09 at 2:01 pm
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Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:12 pm to thenry712
Let's see where to begin........
I would love to see Clark at the defensive mid with Adu as the other mid.
I think 4-4-2 is what we should go with.
As for everything else...i have no clue
I would love to see Clark at the defensive mid with Adu as the other mid.
I think 4-4-2 is what we should go with.
As for everything else...i have no clue
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:16 pm to LSUButt
Well Bradley will get one spot...and I like Torres for the other.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:17 pm to thenry712
does jones get the nod already?
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:17 pm to thenry712
Is Rossi even expected to play? Wouldn't the Italians be more likely to go up top with Toni and Gilardino?
As for the US, I would like to see:
Howard
Spector-Onyewu-Bocanegra-Bornstein
Bradley-Clark-Feilhaber
Dempsey-Donovan
Altidore
4-5-1 would be the right formation in this game because the you don't want to give much space to the Italian counter attack. Unfortunately, Mastroeni has been pretty weak the past few games and Jones is not yet available, so the center midfield spots are probably too offensive for this game, but I can't think of a better option.
Maybe Torres? I definitely don't want to see Beasley.
As for the US, I would like to see:
Howard
Spector-Onyewu-Bocanegra-Bornstein
Bradley-Clark-Feilhaber
Dempsey-Donovan
Altidore
4-5-1 would be the right formation in this game because the you don't want to give much space to the Italian counter attack. Unfortunately, Mastroeni has been pretty weak the past few games and Jones is not yet available, so the center midfield spots are probably too offensive for this game, but I can't think of a better option.
Maybe Torres? I definitely don't want to see Beasley.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:18 pm to thenry712
Is this game in the States?
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:19 pm to thenry712
quote:
I am bored and wish to start a pregame thread way too early.
quote:
Who will Bob put in the other central mid role?
I haven't a clue.
quote:
What formation should the Yanks employ?
4-4-2
quote:
You know how I know Rossi is ghey?
How?
quote:
Rossi, how bad will we lacerate him?
Very.
quote:
How bad will our defense be lacerated?
Not very.
quote:
Can we capitalize on Italy's defensive brand of footy?
Hell fricking yes!
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:20 pm to Keys Open Doors
Mastroeni didn't make the roster for Confederations Cup.
I like Feilhaber too
4-4-1-1 would be the best formation IMO.
Howard
Spector-Gooch-DeMerit-Bocanegra
Dempsey-Bradley-Torres-Feilhaber
Donovan
Jozy
I like Feilhaber too
4-4-1-1 would be the best formation IMO.
Howard
Spector-Gooch-DeMerit-Bocanegra
Dempsey-Bradley-Torres-Feilhaber
Donovan
Jozy
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:25 pm to thenry712
Dempsey-Bradley-Torres-Feilhaber
Donovan
Jozy
This seems fine, too. I'm not dead set on Clark or any of the other defensive/center mids, although I think Bradley is probably the best eligible player.
I just don't think that DeMerit is a good enough central defender to put up against the Italians. I realize Bornstein is also unproven, but I feel like I know DeMerit isn't good enough, while with Bornstein, I just don't know.
Donovan
Jozy
This seems fine, too. I'm not dead set on Clark or any of the other defensive/center mids, although I think Bradley is probably the best eligible player.
I just don't think that DeMerit is a good enough central defender to put up against the Italians. I realize Bornstein is also unproven, but I feel like I know DeMerit isn't good enough, while with Bornstein, I just don't know.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:45 pm to thenry712
Wow, completely forgot about Bradley.
Scratch Clark and sub Bradley...I love Feilhaber, Adu, and Torres...so any one of those 3 for the other mid spot is fine with me.
Scratch Clark and sub Bradley...I love Feilhaber, Adu, and Torres...so any one of those 3 for the other mid spot is fine with me.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 2:47 pm to LSUButt
Adu won't start. I guarantee you he won't.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:01 pm to thenry712
when is this game thierry?
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:07 pm to S
U.S. vs. Italy
June 15
Tshwane/Pretoria, South Africa
2:25 p.m. ET, ESPN, ESPN360
U.S. vs. Brazil
June 18
Tshwane/Pretoria, South Africa
9:55 a.m. ET, ESPN2, ESPN360
U.S. vs. Egypt
June 21
Rustenburg, South Africa
2:25 p.m. ET, ESPN2, ESPN36
June 15
Tshwane/Pretoria, South Africa
2:25 p.m. ET, ESPN, ESPN360
U.S. vs. Brazil
June 18
Tshwane/Pretoria, South Africa
9:55 a.m. ET, ESPN2, ESPN360
U.S. vs. Egypt
June 21
Rustenburg, South Africa
2:25 p.m. ET, ESPN2, ESPN36
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:09 pm to Keys Open Doors
We need to get Torres on the field more. I was at the Guatemala game and he appeared to be one of the few guys who was possession oriented. We have a tendency to play kickball in spurts before settling down.
I just want him to get a fair chance at a starting role at least.
I just want him to get a fair chance at a starting role at least.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:14 pm to TigerPaul
I like Torres but I do not believe the US should be trying to play a possession oriented game. We have size and speed, but we do not have the same level of ball skill as the Europeans or Brazil/Argentina. So why should we even attempt to adopt a strategy which plays away from our strengths and plays into theirs?
I believe one of the things holding back US soccer is our pathological need to be like Europe and gain their approval. Screw it. Change the game. Don't play their style. It's a losing strategy.
I believe one of the things holding back US soccer is our pathological need to be like Europe and gain their approval. Screw it. Change the game. Don't play their style. It's a losing strategy.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:17 pm to Baloo
You make a good point Baloo but I would still like to see us keep a little better possession at times. If we can retain and push the ball up the sides, cross the ball and let our taller/stronger athletes win the ball in the air we will have a lot of success.
And as much as I like Jozy, the kid can't turn on the ball worth a shite. He certainly fits the kickball mold (and he is great at it), needs to get a run on the ball while facing goal to be dangerous.
And as much as I like Jozy, the kid can't turn on the ball worth a shite. He certainly fits the kickball mold (and he is great at it), needs to get a run on the ball while facing goal to be dangerous.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:19 pm to TigerPaul
And to further your point Baloo, we kind of remind me of the French teams of past. They have always played long ball and just outran people. And they have had "some" success.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:20 pm to TigerPaul
The we're in agreement. Because I like Torres as well and it's not like ball skills are worthless. so long as we're not trying to be the Dutch, we could use some possession guys, as longas it's part of a strategy to feed our physical guys in the middle.
We just don't need another Reyna. A guy making these pretty little touch passes that go nowhere and don't fit the team's flow at all.
We just don't need another Reyna. A guy making these pretty little touch passes that go nowhere and don't fit the team's flow at all.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:22 pm to thenry712
Italy always starts off slow in tournaments, so it's good to play them first, that's when they're vulnerable (see 3-0 beat down by Holland at Euro 2008, mediocre group stage at 2006 WC).
That said this is the Confederations Cup. Are they even playing their first team? This isn't a real tournament, it's just a warm up for the host country, my native South Africa.
That said this is the Confederations Cup. Are they even playing their first team? This isn't a real tournament, it's just a warm up for the host country, my native South Africa.
Posted on 6/13/09 at 3:26 pm to Baloo
What you are describing reminds me a lot of Senegal '02.
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