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re: Chris Wells=Deuce

Posted on 3/31/09 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 8:52 pm to
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Beanie is a better prospect than Deuce but I would rather trade our pick at #14 to the Raiders for their 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder and Michael Bush rather than just draft Wells at 14. Wells is the type of back that would be great in a Power style running game. We will only need 10 to 15 carries from a power back of his type.
+1 I totally agree with you.
This post was edited on 3/31/09 at 9:02 pm
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 9:09 pm to
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Comparing him to Reggie is just stupid though. Wells CAN run between the tackle. And he doesn't exactly shy away from contact between the hash marks
Context - I said stepping out of bounds like Reggie; can't break my sentence apart to mean something else.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 9:38 pm to
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it's called going to the pros, man, until he proves himself in the league all that shite he did in college goes out the window. that is why I said jury is out on him in my earlier post.


The same can be said for any prospect to ever enter the NFL.


That's not what we are discussing. shite
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 9:39 pm to
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Context - I said stepping out of bounds like Reggie; can't break my sentence apart to mean something else.



Im not breaking apart anything dude.

Reggie runs to the sidelines. Wells does not. If he happens to be near the sidelines and steps out to avoid a hit, there is nothing wrong with that.

Reggie runs towards the sidelines, AND goes out of bounds.

The 2 things are not the same.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 9:40 pm to
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but I would rather trade our pick at #14 to the Raiders for their 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder and Michael Bush rather than just draft Wells at 14.


Madden retard


Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 9:59 pm to
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That's not what we are discussing. shite
what are we discussin Lester? I forgot how sensitive you are.
This post was edited on 3/31/09 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 10:05 pm to
certainly we aren't discussing that no player is proven until they prove something in the NFL. If we were, then we wouldn't even talk about these guys about to get draft. Is that hard to understand?

thats pretty obvious. I dont even think Kige would say that.

Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 3/31/09 at 10:12 pm to
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Is that hard to understand?
no Lester it is not, I'm not Kige but the fact remains all these guys are questionable until they produce in the NFL, that is why some are busts and others like Colston(sleepers) shock and awe, but I hear what you are sayin. Wells should make a excellent pro, but....... just frickin witcha
Posted by Jason9782003
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 10:19 pm to
Disagree!!!

Deuce was much, much faster than Wells coming out of college. Deuce could do it all until his knees went out.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 10:20 pm to
are you aware of what Wells ran at his pro day? probably not
Posted by Jason9782003
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 10:25 pm to
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are you aware of what Wells ran at his pro day? probably not


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I would put more weight into the combine time
This post was edited on 3/31/09 at 10:26 pm
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/31/09 at 10:30 pm to
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are you aware of what Wells ran at his pro day? probably not
Deuce ran a 4.41 at the Combine, Wells ran a 4.59. His pro day sub 4.4( reported as fast as 4.34 by some scouts ) was on Ohio St's known fast turf.

edit: lol beat me to it
This post was edited on 3/31/09 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279529 posts
Posted on 3/31/09 at 11:37 pm to
compare the other OSU players combine to Pro day times and they arent nearly as big of a gap, so dont give me the extra fast turf. a little faster? sure. not that much faster.


it has always been reported he is a 4.4 guy, and he proved that at the pro day.


at the combine it looked like he was gonna shite himself running the 40, he was so fricking tense.


I guarantee you he is closer to 4.45 than 4.59

dude ran away from a lot of people at OSU, including LSU's "fast" defense


Posted by KindOfABigDeal
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 12:21 am to
Dude ran away from Craig Stetlz, not that impressed, and for that matter, I think all the times have proved that LSU's defense wasn't that fast. Not one guy on that team has run an impressive forty. Doesn't matter.

I think there are a number of similarities b/t Beanie and AP. Both are big backs with very good speed, deceptive cutting ability, and collegiate injury issues. Having said that, Wells is def at least one notch below AP, but I can see the similarities.

There really aren't any similarities b/t Wells and Deuce. Deuce was a dual threat back in college. Elusive with great top end speed. Deuce didn't become Wells until after the first knee injury and about 25 more lbs. Out of college, comparing him to Moreno would be a better fit.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:07 am to
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Naturally, Saints' fans have an overrated opinion of Deuce. Wells is probably a more talented back coming out of college.


Not true. Ole Miss sucked when he was there, but he still had a Heisman campaign. He was an awesome player on an average team. I hated when LSU played against him and he was a steal in the draft at #23.

quote:

I think Beanie will be a solid pro; I wouldn't be mad if the Saints picked him.


:ikigethis:
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:48 am to
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Out of college, comparin hin to Moreno would be a better fit.
comparin Moreno to who? Deuce, no way, Deuce was faster, bigger and had a lil more power, Moreno is Cadillac Williams all over again, don't know why the hell people can't see that.
This post was edited on 4/1/09 at 9:49 am
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:16 am to
Maybe because Cadillac never showed the moves, particularly on the inside, that Moreno shows? Watch Moreno's highlight reels and then watch LT's - much more similiar.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:24 am to
a lil bit more elusive than Williams I agree, but he runs or tries to run over people like Williams even though there not built for that, they are both the same size, but the LT comparison with the shiftyness I can see.
This post was edited on 4/1/09 at 10:26 am
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:34 am to
I see your point; good call!
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:41 am to
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