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AmEx Spending Limit Cuts

Posted on 3/19/09 at 9:51 pm
Posted by CharlieMorrisTiger
Leftopia
Member since Feb 2008
1346 posts
Posted on 3/19/09 at 9:51 pm
I read an article the other day about credit card cos lowering limits and then nailing people with an over-limit fee. I said to myself, "Good thing that won't happen to me." Well, it sort of just did (not the fee part, yet anyway).

My wife and I both have (had) AmEx Delta SkyMiles Platinum accounts. We had a total credit limit of about $55,000 plus flexible over the limit privileges. I've been an AmEx member since 1997. I've never been a day late on a payment. Never been over my limit. We had some big items on my card (trips, a Mac, and wedding hangover), but I have (had) a 7% rate on that balance (actually on whole card) and I'm killing it by April 1. Last I checked, my credit score was close to 800, wife's was over 800.

I just made an $8,000 payment on my card, and always pay way over the monthly min.

So, I get an email today saying my credit limit had just been cut down to what equals about $400 over my balance (pre-$8000 pmt which hasn't posted).

What if I had been overseas and that was my only card? I go from thinking I have tens of thousands for emergencies to $400 (and that probably didn't include today's charges).

So, I called and said I wanted to cancel my card. This smug little fricker said, "Are you aware that we just decreased your limit?" I said, "Uhh, yeah, that's why I am cancelling my card." He replied, "Do you know why we decreased you limit?" So at this point I am wanting to reach through the phone and well whatever--I mean is this my third-grade teacher?

I said, "Is it because I've been a loyal member for 12 years? Or is it because I upgraded to platinum with my wife and pay $400 a year in annual fees? or is it because my wife and i run about $4000 a month through our cards and yet pay off our balances? Or is it because I've never missed a payment?"

The little fricker started yelling at ME and started rattling off some statistics about my account (like the average balance over the past 12 years--I remodeled my entire house using my AmEx).

I said, "Shut the frick up and cancel my card."

I was telling my wife that I would have just had a candid conversation with the rep and maybe a supervisor a level or two up, accepted the limit cut, and gone on using my card and making money for AmEx. Instead, because they put some dickhead little fricker in charge of handling calls from angry customers (and I waited on hold for 20 minutes--usually AmEx is like 1 minute--must be a lot of pissed off people), they lost a very loyal, steady customer. Wife is cancelling her account too.

Anyone else get cut by AmEx? Oh, and I have no other consumer debt to speak of. I understand they're struggling, but they clearly need a better system for discerning quality customers versus high-risk customers, and then dealing with all customers tactfully.

Sorry, had to rant.
Posted by Thomas Hudson
Dallas
Member since Dec 2006
7310 posts
Posted on 3/19/09 at 10:06 pm to
I've had the AMEX Platinum card for about 5 years now. I've never carried a balance (can't), and never had a late payment. I actually got a card from AMEX yesterday, just randomly, thanking me for being a cardmember. That was it. Nothing to sell, not pushing any other cards or anything. Just a thank you.

It's strange that AMEX is treating customers so disperately. And it sounds like they've made more money off of your account, so I'm surprised they didn't treat you better.
Posted by CharlieMorrisTiger
Leftopia
Member since Feb 2008
1346 posts
Posted on 3/19/09 at 10:10 pm to
I've gotten those over the years and they normally treat me like gold (or platinum). I think they must've sent the credit-limit cut emails out to a ton of people and hence the crazy call volume and pissed of reps.

Yeah, they've made an ASSload of money off of me over the years. Not only did I remodel my house with the thing, I built three basement apartments and upgraded another home. Not to mention the fact that I run everything through the card. Just imagine the service fees they've made, not to mention the interest over the years.

Good riddance. I'm going to a jar or envelope system or something. Maybe I'll get a goat or two and barter.
This post was edited on 3/19/09 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Homeboy
Member since Aug 2007
10867 posts
Posted on 3/19/09 at 10:19 pm to
That sucks.

You should have maxed it out to 55k and then paid them squat. Unsecured debt.

Then let Obama pick up the tab.
Posted by CharlieMorrisTiger
Leftopia
Member since Feb 2008
1346 posts
Posted on 3/19/09 at 11:33 pm to
good point!
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44073 posts
Posted on 3/20/09 at 1:43 am to
quote:

was telling my wife that I would have just had a candid conversation with the rep and maybe a supervisor a level or two up, accepted the limit cut, and gone on using my card and making money for AmEx. Instead, because they put some dickhead little fricker in charge of handling calls from angry customers



My experience was with Chase- about to pay off my home mortgage within the next 8 months (30 year loan/paying off in 8 years) asking about my Helco, zero balance but they(Chase) has reduceded it twice due to the recession.

The reduction is due to falling housing prices, yet at the same time my property tax has increased by 50k. The difference between what Chase says and the assessor says is over 100k. All I am asking for is what Chase states my house is worth, so I can reduce my propery tax. (Yes I know they are low balling me, but LA property tax is BS any way) Hoping to meet in the middle.

After waiting on hold for over 1/2 hour and then transfered 4 different times, I finally get to speak to an American. My Helco was labled BLOCKED, why- I didn't respond to their last reduction. Told her I never received the last notification of a reduction, she tells me they know 'since it was returned due to no one living at the address'

I've made 4 mortgage payments since then, why doesn't Chase not have my address? Chase mails me a bill every month.

Says she is sorry, but I am lucky since my mortgage is getting paid. No shite I am paying it! Told her all I want is what Chase is saying what my house is currently worth, and for her to mail me all outstanding correspondence. She tells me that I was her best caller of the day!
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15907 posts
Posted on 3/20/09 at 8:22 pm to
You really should email customer service or something else. I would give them the chance to fix their error.

If they win you back, great. If not, screw them.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 3/21/09 at 2:36 pm to
F That, the fees Amex imposes on merchants is twice that of MC/Visa.

Screw the elitist scum, I pay Amex between 1200-2000/month...for the "honor" of Yuppie money transaction. Anyone who has an Amex, has a Visa/MC anyway, I've been thinking of cutting the frickers out. I'll start calling my Accounts on Monday to see how many will change their billing option to Visa/MC....shite bout time I gave myself a raise.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 3/21/09 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

We had a total credit limit of about $55,000
quote:

my credit score was close to 800, wife's was over 800
You really don't have much to worry about, do you. If only the 8% of Americans who have no job could have your set of problems with Amex.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25893 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 8:49 am to
quote:

It's strange that AMEX is treating customers so disperately


One may be a revolver and the other may be the traditional Amex, pay it off at the end of the month type of account.

I use the shite out of my Amex, but mostly because I am compelled to pay it off monthly so I don't build balances. The annual fees are minimal in comparison to the interest I would pay if I carried balances.

I've never had a single problem with them. The only hassle I get is them asking me to upgrade to Platinum via the mailers. Don't think its worth the increased fees.
Posted by Thomas Hudson
Dallas
Member since Dec 2006
7310 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 9:20 am to
quote:

One may be a revolver and the other may be the traditional Amex, pay it off at the end of the month type of account.


That's true. Mine is the traditional, pay off every month charge account, so maybe that makes a difference.
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