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Butler Scouting Report
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:14 pm
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Founded: 1855
Enrollment: 4,200
Colors: Blue and White
Coach: Brad Stevens
Record (Conference): 26-5 (15-3 Horizon League)
Scouting Report:
Butler is led by sophomore forward Matt Howard, the Horizon League Player of the Year, and it starts three true freshmen: Newcomer of the Year Gordon Hayward and Gs Shelvin Mack and Ronald Nored. Howard was third in the league in scoring and fourth in rebounding, and Hayward was the only player in the top 10 in scoring, rebounding, steals, blocks, field-goal percentage, 3-point shooting and free-throw shooting.
Starting 5:
Matt Howard 6'8" 230 - 14.6pts - 6.7reb
Gordon Hayward 6'8 200- 13.2pt - 6.5reb
Shelvin Mack - 6'3" 214 -11.7pts - 6.5reb
Willie Veasley- 6'3" 204 8.9pts - 4.3reb
Ronald Nored - 6'0" 178 - 4.2pts - 3.1reb
Top Reserve:
Zach Hahn - 6'0" 177 - 5.3pts - 1.2reb
Complete Schedule:
All times are US/Eastern
Nov · Dec · Jan · Feb · Mar · Complete Printable Schedule
Key: = Home Games
Complete schedule
Regular Season
Date Opponent Result / Time Record Tickets
Nov 15 @Drake Won 58-48 1-0
Nov 19 Ball St. Won 64-55 2-0
Nov 22 Indiana South Bend Won 87-33 3-0
Nov 26 Northwestern Won 57-53 4-0
Nov 29 Evansville Won 75-59 5-0
Dec 4 @Cleveland St. Won 50-48 6-0 (1-0)
Dec 6 @Youngstown St. Won 79-71 7-0 (2-0)
Dec 10 @Bradley Won 87-75 8-0 (2-0)
Dec 13 @Ohio St. Lost 51-54 8-1 (2-0)
Dec 20 Fla. Gulf Coast Won 73-53 9-1 (2-0)
Dec 23 @Xavier Won 74-65 10-1 (2-0)
Dec 30 UAB Won 72-68 11-1 (2-0)
Jan 3 @Valparaiso Won 75-62 12-1 (3-0)
Jan 8 Wright St. Won 64-48 13-1 (4-0)
Jan 10 Detroit Won 54-50 14-1 (5-0)
Jan 15 @Loyola (Ill.) Won 78-55 15-1 (6-0)
Jan 17 @Ill.-Chicago Won 59-52 16-1 (7-0)
Jan 22 Green Bay Won 68-59 17-1 (8-0)
Jan 24 UW-Milwaukee Won 78-48 18-1 (9-0)
Jan 30 Valparaiso Won 59-51 19-1 (10-0)
Feb 2 @Green Bay Lost 66-75 19-2 (10-1)
Feb 5 @Detroit Won 66-61 20-2 (11-1)
Feb 7 @Wright St. Won 69-51 21-2 (12-1)
Feb 13 Ill.-Chicago Won 80-61 22-2 (13-1)
Feb 15 Loyola (Ill.) Lost 67-71 22-3 (13-2)
Feb 18 @UW-Milwaukee Lost 60-63 22-4 (13-3)
Feb 21 @Davidson Won 75-63 23-4 (13-3)
Feb 26 Youngstown St. Won 78-57 24-4 (14-3)
Feb 28 Cleveland St. Won 58-56 25-4 (15-3)
Mar 7 Wright St. Won 62-57 26-4 (16-3)
Mar 10 Cleveland St. Lost 54-57 26-5 (16-4)
Founded: 1855
Enrollment: 4,200
Colors: Blue and White
Coach: Brad Stevens
Record (Conference): 26-5 (15-3 Horizon League)
Scouting Report:
Butler is led by sophomore forward Matt Howard, the Horizon League Player of the Year, and it starts three true freshmen: Newcomer of the Year Gordon Hayward and Gs Shelvin Mack and Ronald Nored. Howard was third in the league in scoring and fourth in rebounding, and Hayward was the only player in the top 10 in scoring, rebounding, steals, blocks, field-goal percentage, 3-point shooting and free-throw shooting.
Starting 5:
Matt Howard 6'8" 230 - 14.6pts - 6.7reb
Gordon Hayward 6'8 200- 13.2pt - 6.5reb
Shelvin Mack - 6'3" 214 -11.7pts - 6.5reb
Willie Veasley- 6'3" 204 8.9pts - 4.3reb
Ronald Nored - 6'0" 178 - 4.2pts - 3.1reb
Top Reserve:
Zach Hahn - 6'0" 177 - 5.3pts - 1.2reb
Complete Schedule:
All times are US/Eastern
Nov · Dec · Jan · Feb · Mar · Complete Printable Schedule
Key: = Home Games
Complete schedule
Regular Season
Date Opponent Result / Time Record Tickets
Nov 15 @Drake Won 58-48 1-0
Nov 19 Ball St. Won 64-55 2-0
Nov 22 Indiana South Bend Won 87-33 3-0
Nov 26 Northwestern Won 57-53 4-0
Nov 29 Evansville Won 75-59 5-0
Dec 4 @Cleveland St. Won 50-48 6-0 (1-0)
Dec 6 @Youngstown St. Won 79-71 7-0 (2-0)
Dec 10 @Bradley Won 87-75 8-0 (2-0)
Dec 13 @Ohio St. Lost 51-54 8-1 (2-0)
Dec 20 Fla. Gulf Coast Won 73-53 9-1 (2-0)
Dec 23 @Xavier Won 74-65 10-1 (2-0)
Dec 30 UAB Won 72-68 11-1 (2-0)
Jan 3 @Valparaiso Won 75-62 12-1 (3-0)
Jan 8 Wright St. Won 64-48 13-1 (4-0)
Jan 10 Detroit Won 54-50 14-1 (5-0)
Jan 15 @Loyola (Ill.) Won 78-55 15-1 (6-0)
Jan 17 @Ill.-Chicago Won 59-52 16-1 (7-0)
Jan 22 Green Bay Won 68-59 17-1 (8-0)
Jan 24 UW-Milwaukee Won 78-48 18-1 (9-0)
Jan 30 Valparaiso Won 59-51 19-1 (10-0)
Feb 2 @Green Bay Lost 66-75 19-2 (10-1)
Feb 5 @Detroit Won 66-61 20-2 (11-1)
Feb 7 @Wright St. Won 69-51 21-2 (12-1)
Feb 13 Ill.-Chicago Won 80-61 22-2 (13-1)
Feb 15 Loyola (Ill.) Lost 67-71 22-3 (13-2)
Feb 18 @UW-Milwaukee Lost 60-63 22-4 (13-3)
Feb 21 @Davidson Won 75-63 23-4 (13-3)
Feb 26 Youngstown St. Won 78-57 24-4 (14-3)
Feb 28 Cleveland St. Won 58-56 25-4 (15-3)
Mar 7 Wright St. Won 62-57 26-4 (16-3)
Mar 10 Cleveland St. Lost 54-57 26-5 (16-4)
This post was edited on 3/15/09 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:15 pm to Gugich22
hopefully our experience plays a role
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:16 pm to DBG
I see where they beat Xavier.Ouch!
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:16 pm to DBG
feel free to add what you know about them and I'll gladly add to the original post
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:17 pm to Gugich22
i remember florida beat them on a last second mike miller shot in a 12-5 game a few years ago 
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:21 pm to DBG
yeah, i remember that too...mike miller is the man.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:30 pm to Gugich22
theres nothing that really jumps off the stat page to me
but ive seen butler over the last few years and they always fundamental you to death, play patient as hell on offense, and play solid d
under brady, this would have worried me...under trent, not so much
but ive seen butler over the last few years and they always fundamental you to death, play patient as hell on offense, and play solid d
under brady, this would have worried me...under trent, not so much
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:40 pm to Gugich22
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:42 pm to DBG
That win over Xavier tells me these guys can play. But then they lost to UW Milwaukee after beating them by 30 a few weeks earlier.
Too bad the Tigers played so poorly over the last couple of weeks. We would have gotten a better seed. That Vanderbilt loss on Sr. night really hurt. Hope Trent can get them fired up.
If we beat Butler, it will be hell playing UNC in Greensboro. It's like a home court fot them. I saw them play Illinois there several years ago in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge. Great venue for NCAA tourney.
Too bad the Tigers played so poorly over the last couple of weeks. We would have gotten a better seed. That Vanderbilt loss on Sr. night really hurt. Hope Trent can get them fired up.
If we beat Butler, it will be hell playing UNC in Greensboro. It's like a home court fot them. I saw them play Illinois there several years ago in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge. Great venue for NCAA tourney.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:44 pm to LSUexile
we score about 8 pts. more a game than them, but they give up about 8 pts less. I think this game will be taken over by Tasmin Mitchell down low. No tall guys to block his shot. I can see Tasmin guarding the 230lb'er.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:44 pm to Gugich22
I don't see anyone that can match up with 6'10 170.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:46 pm to Elleshoe
i feel bad for howard, he's going to have to deal with temple.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 6:55 pm to TigerStick
They beat X and UAB....THAT IS IT...why is this team a 9 SEED? With their talest player at 6-8...we get a break...better than playing VCU or even Clev St or a BCS conf school like USC or Ok St!
Posted on 3/15/09 at 7:02 pm to TigerStick
quote:
i feel bad for howard, he's going to have to deal with temple
Posted on 3/15/09 at 7:12 pm to Elleshoe
Hope you're right, Elleshoe. 
Posted on 3/15/09 at 7:20 pm to LSUexile
I'm excited about Butler, but UNC in North Carolina...frick.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 7:26 pm to LSUexile
quote:
but ive seen butler over the last few years and they always fundamental you to death, play patient as hell on offense, and play solid d
This is pretty accurate. There will be limited possessions, a game in the 50s, imo. We will need to run these guys off the three point line and limit the mental lapses on defense. They will make us play defense for 20-25 secs per possesion, team defense is a must! We must be patient on offense. Think Washington State, very similar styles.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 7:39 pm to LSUexile
I live in Indianapolis, which is where Butler is located, and I have watched this team play all year. I sort of adopted them as my second team
(behind LSU of course) which makes this matchup suck all the more for me. They have a 6' 8" freshman named Gordon Hayward who just 10 months ago was taking our local High School team to the state championships and won it on a buzzer beater.
As far as a scouting report goes, they run an extremely efficient offense rooted in fundamentals that is rarely used on any level of basketball anymore--very little one on one. The primary objective is to swing pass the ball around the arc with one touch passes. There isn't much dribbling involved so the defense has to keep their head on a swivel. If they get an open look they shoot the three at a very high percentage. They stay very much true to their Hoosier roots--literally and figuratively. They play in Hinkle Field House which is where the real life Hoosiers story was played out and subsequently filmed.
The kid Gordan Heyward lives in my neighborhood and reminds me a lot of Eddie Ludwig who I hope we see similar results from. Nobody really recruited him that much but he just has that Larry Birdish quality. Being 6'8" he can shoot the three right over the top of you so whoever guards him will have their work cutout.
Their toughest matchup for us might be Matt Howard. He's 6'10" but is a real scrappy kid. He outworks everybody in the games that I have seen. Lots of offensive rebounds and putbacks. Chris Johnson will have to fight Howard for everything.
I would say that our best advantage would be our athleticism. Butler isn't the fastest or strongest team(outside Howard) so if we can keep the game up tempo then that may play in our favor.
(behind LSU of course) which makes this matchup suck all the more for me. They have a 6' 8" freshman named Gordon Hayward who just 10 months ago was taking our local High School team to the state championships and won it on a buzzer beater.
As far as a scouting report goes, they run an extremely efficient offense rooted in fundamentals that is rarely used on any level of basketball anymore--very little one on one. The primary objective is to swing pass the ball around the arc with one touch passes. There isn't much dribbling involved so the defense has to keep their head on a swivel. If they get an open look they shoot the three at a very high percentage. They stay very much true to their Hoosier roots--literally and figuratively. They play in Hinkle Field House which is where the real life Hoosiers story was played out and subsequently filmed.
The kid Gordan Heyward lives in my neighborhood and reminds me a lot of Eddie Ludwig who I hope we see similar results from. Nobody really recruited him that much but he just has that Larry Birdish quality. Being 6'8" he can shoot the three right over the top of you so whoever guards him will have their work cutout.
Their toughest matchup for us might be Matt Howard. He's 6'10" but is a real scrappy kid. He outworks everybody in the games that I have seen. Lots of offensive rebounds and putbacks. Chris Johnson will have to fight Howard for everything.
I would say that our best advantage would be our athleticism. Butler isn't the fastest or strongest team(outside Howard) so if we can keep the game up tempo then that may play in our favor.
This post was edited on 3/15/09 at 7:44 pm
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