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Colin Gray - gave my son a gun he used to shoot up a school trial

Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:52 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:52 am
Anyone else watching this trial? It’s one I’ve been looking forward to for a while. I’m very torn. Day 3 is today and SRO on the stand now after Asst Principal wrapped up

This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22927 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:54 am to
He apparently had shrines in his room to school shooters and the dad still bought him a gun. Right?
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:57 am to
His own parents thought he should be institutionalized and demonstrated behavior that would indicate he's capable of doing something like that. The father absolutely deserves some of the blame but how much is the question
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8313 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:57 am to
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He apparently had shrines in his room to school shooters and the dad still bought him a gun. Right?



Wow I hadn't seen this. Lock the dad up and throw away the key
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:04 am to
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Wow I hadn't seen this. Lock the dad up and throw away the key


I believe those were at his mothers house before she lost custody and it was only mentioned to the Grandmother while she drove the mom up to Winder after the shooting that day
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:06 am to
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His own parents thought he should be institutionalized and demonstrated behavior that would indicate he's capable of doing something like that. The father absolutely deserves some of the blame but how much is the question


They dad coordinated with the school to have a mental health evaluation done at school on Sept 5, which is why the Colt moved up the shooting to September 4. He originally planned to do it in February of 2025 on the anniversary of the Cruz school shooting at MSHS in Florida
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:08 am to
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The father absolutely deserves some of the blame but how much is the question


It is heartbreaking to watch the emotional day from yesterday and I 100% agree the father is to blame…but from a legal standpoint, they have to prove that Colin KNEW his son was going to shoot up the school. Not that he might have, could have, etc. That’s the legality behind it, which is what makes this case so tough and interesting
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:10 am to
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Wow I hadn't seen this. Lock the dad up and throw away the key


Colin never even asked for a bail hearing and has been sitting in jail since he was arrested, as he feels guilty for what happened, but from a legal standpoint, giving your son a gun even though he liked certain things or acted a certain way, doesn’t mean he broke the law.

He fricked up majorly. He knows it and everyone knows it. But what he did, was not unlawful
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19470 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:11 am to
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They dad coordinated with the school to have a mental health evaluation done at school on Sept 5, which is why the Colt moved up the shooting to September 4. He originally planned to do it in February of 2025 on the anniversary of the Cruz school shooting at MSHS in Florida


So he knew his kid was unstable, or at least had exhibited signs of having mental health issues.

And he still let him have a gun(s). Did the kid have free access to the gun(s) and they weren't in a safe that only adults had access to?

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous to me. My kids are only allowed to touch guns when I'm present and they're mentally strong/normal.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:17 am to
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So he knew his kid was unstable, or at least had exhibited signs of having mental health issues. And he still let him have a gun(s).
Did the kid have free access to the gun(s) and they weren't in a safe that only adults had access to?


Yes. He gave it to him for Christmas 9 months earlier as they had gone deer hunting together

The dad fricked up, no doubt, but did he ever break the law….

If this emotional thing continues and they cannot prove the dad KNEW he was going to shoot up the school, the judge could rule to direct verdict after the State rests

It differs from the Tennessee parents as they knew that day the kid drew pictures of shooting up the school and still let him attend that day….even that trial was tough

This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 10:18 am
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
8066 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:18 am to
I’m guessing he’ll get 15 years for manslaughter
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:20 am to
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I’m guessing he’ll get 15 years for manslaughter


If this gets to the jury, the defense better damn well hope they get it through the head of the jury that there is a difference between what Colin could have done different and the LAW. The jury is not there to punish someone or emotional conviction someone. They are there to determine guilt of a criminal law

Also, if they don’t prove that and they atill convict, I think the judge will likely give a minimum sentence and delay sentencing upon appeal. That’s just my guess as of right now based on the testimony
This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 10:21 am
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6536 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:31 am to
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His own parents thought he should be institutionalized and demonstrated behavior that would indicate he's capable of doing something like that. The father absolutely deserves some of the blame but how much is the question


Like bringing a pit bull to a day care and letting him loose. Totally irresponsible.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:36 am to
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Like bringing a pit bull to a day care and letting him loose


That would against the law as you knew what was going to happen.

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Totally irresponsible.

100% and just fricking stupid. Taking his guns would obviously prevented the shooting “that day,” but stupidity is not against the law
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19470 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:46 am to
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Like bringing a pit bull to a day care and letting him loose


That would against the law as you knew what was going to happen.


Someone could say "my dog has never attacked or bitten anyone and has loved all children in the past"

Kind of a good analogy here

Although there are leash laws, so maybe not, idk
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19470 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:47 am to
There has to be some laws on gross negligence that apply here.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14223 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:54 am to
So many things went wrong in this case. Kid was living with Mom and Dad didn't know about the shrine.

He had been in a different school system the year prior and had been flagged by that system as a potential danger, but that apparently wasn't in his records when they were sent to the new school system.

When the parents called the school to warn them, the school misunderstood who they were referring to and went looking for a different kid.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:55 am to
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There has to be some laws on gross negligence that apply here.


According to the law experts I’ve heard, there really isn’t. He wasn’t officially labeled mentally ill. There were no laws preventing him from giving him the gun.

Perhaps the law will change, but that could create a very serious slippery slope

Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26448 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 11:00 am to
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So many things went wrong in this case. Kid was living with Mom and Dad didn't know about the shrine.


100%. The police even visited them months earlier about a potential threat, but there was no proof it was Colt at the time. The dad is on police video saying if you know my son made any type of threats, I will rid my house of all guns…but the officers said they didn’t have any proof it was him.

Also, the videos of him walking onto the bus and around school and in classrooms with his backpack is crazy. He had massive poster board stick out with a sock on top of the barrel and yet no one thought it was suspicious.

I think one teacher even asked him, “what’s that for” and he said “I’ll show you later” and walked off.

Just thank god that girl saw the gun before opening the door again for him. And thank god for the hero teacher that died, but was able to close that door again after crawling back in.

This could have been much much worse. The SROs ran straight into the sound of gun fire and confronted him and were able to arrest him quickly
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
4195 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 11:01 am to
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