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Banking Sinking Faster Than Gov Can Bail
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:54 am
Posted on 12/30/08 at 4:54 am
Here is what happens when the market is not allowed to accomplish it's important function of price discovery. From the WSJ...
'From the Wall Street Journal:
Banks and savings institutions in the U.S. appear headed for their first overall quarterly loss since 1990, as troubled loans pile up faster than the federal government's unprecedented efforts to aid the battered industry....
"The earnings power for this industry has absolutely collapsed," says Eric Hovde, chief executive of Hovde Capital Advisors LLC, a money-management firm in Washington that specializes in financial services.
Nearly a quarter of U.S. financial institutions reported a net loss for the quarter ended Sept. 30. The percentage is likely to climb when fourth-quarter results are announced in January, with some analysts predicting that even stalwarts like J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. could tumble into the red....
The glum fourth quarter is an ominous sign for 2009. The U.S. government so far has poured $169 billion into more than 130 financial institutions through its Troubled Asset Relief Program, according to Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Inc. But some banks already are looking for more money or hoarding their existing capital in expectation of another awful year.
Yves here. Repeat after me: you need recapitalization AND price discovery. The near pathological avoidance of the latter by the officialdom would seem to support widespread suspicions that making asset to market, or even a realistic notion of longer-term value, would confirm that the industry is insolvent.'...it gets worse. If you want a case of after Xmas blues continue reading. :)...
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'From the Wall Street Journal:
Banks and savings institutions in the U.S. appear headed for their first overall quarterly loss since 1990, as troubled loans pile up faster than the federal government's unprecedented efforts to aid the battered industry....
"The earnings power for this industry has absolutely collapsed," says Eric Hovde, chief executive of Hovde Capital Advisors LLC, a money-management firm in Washington that specializes in financial services.
Nearly a quarter of U.S. financial institutions reported a net loss for the quarter ended Sept. 30. The percentage is likely to climb when fourth-quarter results are announced in January, with some analysts predicting that even stalwarts like J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. could tumble into the red....
The glum fourth quarter is an ominous sign for 2009. The U.S. government so far has poured $169 billion into more than 130 financial institutions through its Troubled Asset Relief Program, according to Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Inc. But some banks already are looking for more money or hoarding their existing capital in expectation of another awful year.
Yves here. Repeat after me: you need recapitalization AND price discovery. The near pathological avoidance of the latter by the officialdom would seem to support widespread suspicions that making asset to market, or even a realistic notion of longer-term value, would confirm that the industry is insolvent.'...it gets worse. If you want a case of after Xmas blues continue reading. :)...
LINK
Posted on 12/30/08 at 8:07 am to Rivers
Naked Capitalism is a good daily launch pad. What others do you read?
Posted on 12/30/08 at 10:21 am to Rivers
I'm not sure how much price discovery would have mattered. By the time they got around to trying to recapitalize, the only people buying distressed banks were going to be the OTS/FDIC or some kind of Fed-backed takeover. As it stands now anyways, banks are using (or making it known that it is their intent to use) the TARP funds to buy up other banks anyway.
ETA: Don't mistake my comment to mean I think TARP is a good thing (I almost always agree with NC posts), I'm just nitpicking at her comments for the sake of nitpicking.
ETA: Don't mistake my comment to mean I think TARP is a good thing (I almost always agree with NC posts), I'm just nitpicking at her comments for the sake of nitpicking.
This post was edited on 12/30/08 at 10:26 am
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